You must have noticed that it takes you 1 to 2 seconds to kill a player, but your opponent only 0.5 seconds.From your opponent's perspective, you need only 0.5 seconds and he needs 1 to 2 seconds for a kill.You probably also noticed that you get the bullets when you are already behind the cover after sliding.From your opponent's perspective you are still in front of the cover and the bullets hit properly.There are many more examples...Anyway, it's not because TTK is too low, but rather because of the slow calculation time of the servers. What is already over for the opponent, just happens for you.In the worst case, you are already dead for the opponent before you even perceive the damage.In 1 vs 1, if I see the opponent is about to target me, I'd rather take cover and flank him or pull the dozer shield, tag the opponent so someone else can kill him. I avoid 1 on 1 and try to kill opponents mainly from the side/back. (Play in PC only lobbies)That the TTK are dependent on the level/playtime or ingameshop purchases, I have not noticed. Something like Pay2Win or Pay2EasierLobby I have not seen here.

ttd bundled damage is in BFV and it doesn't have crossplay.I don't notice ttd bundled damage very often in Battlefield 1, but the netcode contractor DICE hired was working at DICE during Battlefield 1's development.The netcode contractor who built Battlefield's netcode left DICE after Battlefield 1.So the guy who built the net code doesn't work at dice anymore because he was a contractor.Battlefield V released and the netcode ttd issues were horrible.Then 2042 came out and DICE made bad adjustments to the netcode like 45Hz servers which causes desync with all the other game engine sub systems and is one of the reasons why 2042 has horrendous desync issues.So yeah, the guy who wrote the netcode and knows how to fix it doesn't work at DICE anymore.

This has been an issue for some time in BF-games, BFV has this problem as well (the "TTD-bug").2042 is even worse than BFV, it has a lower tick-rate, which seems to increase the problem.At the moment S5 has issues with hit-reg and the "shooter-experience" in BF2042 is really bad now. The game becomes infuriating to play.People talk about getting an CQC-infantry-only map, while I'm all for that, I think the 'netcode' issues could make it an awful experience.

I'm guessing this will never be answered, DICE unfortunately doesn't seem to care.

I’ve noticed most weapons that take 4 to 6 hits to kill at range “one shot” killing me like I’m being hit w a shotgun at point blank ranges on certain servers. Most likely poor netcode and crap hit detection. All the hits are registering in a single time stamp = BOOM, one shot kill for players on the receiving end.

We've been asking DICE to fix the ttd issue since BFV. Battle(non)sense did an in-depth YouTube video explaining how ping time fluctuations cause 'super bullets'.Unfortunately DICE doesn't seem to have the tech to fix the ttd issue.

TTK to low? No bad server performance!

40 Replies

Zhukov211
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I’ve noticed most weapons that take 4 to 6 hits to kill at range “one shot” killing me like I’m being hit w a shotgun at point blank ranges on certain servers.

Most likely poor netcode and crap hit detection. All the hits are registering in a single time stamp = BOOM, one shot kill for players on the receiving end.
JOGAGATYA
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I think you describe the situation very well! Thank you. This is how most people feel on 128 player games.
The good news is that on last GEN versions playing the PS4 version on my PS5 feels normal.
So why is that? Is it because of the cross play between different systems? Is it the different tick rate of the servers between the versions? Can someone explain? I would like the last GEN versions performance on the new GEN version. Can we settle this somehow once and for all? Is it because of crossplay or other technical issues? How is it that the last GEN version plays so nicely? How can they not get the game to play the same on new gen consoles/PC ?

The most noticeable difference playing on the PlayStation 5 and loading up the PlayStation 4 version is that it takes the same amount of time to kill someone and to get killed. Same amount of bullets from the same kind of weapon. This is what we want ideally.
Gamers who only played the 128 player version have no idea how much better this game is on last gen versions.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
This has been an issue for some time in BF-games, BFV has this problem as well (the "TTD-bug").
2042 is even worse than BFV, it has a lower tick-rate, which seems to increase the problem.
At the moment S5 has issues with hit-reg and the "shooter-experience" in BF2042 is really bad now. The game becomes infuriating to play.
People talk about getting an CQC-infantry-only map, while I'm all for that, I think the 'netcode' issues could make it an awful experience.
cso7777
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@JOGAGATYA I play on PC with crossplay on.

I play mostly 64 player-modes (when they are available), but when I play 128 player maps, it feels the same as playing with 64 players.

You get instakilled, killed behind cover etc, no matter what amount of players are in the server. This seems like a Frostbite issue.

The "netcode" is just bad in general.
OskooI_007
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
We've been asking DICE to fix the ttd issue since BFV. Battle(non)sense did an in-depth YouTube video explaining how ping time fluctuations cause 'super bullets'.
Unfortunately DICE doesn't seem to have the tech to fix the ttd issue.
HJ_Spacewar
3 years ago
@JOGAGATYA This is my exact same opinion. I just recently went back to the PS4 version on my PS5 and it is so much better. Feels way more like what I expect out of a battlefield game. The hit detection and aiming feels better. There are rarely any instadeaths or getting killed behind cover.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the next gen version but I probably won't go back until something changes. I never noticed a huge difference between 128 and 64 on PS5. No telling what the issue might be.
ATFGunr
Legend
3 years ago
@ScamSimulator There’s a million posts about this in the forums, they mash them all into one and it’s a mega thread.
JOGAGATYA
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@cso7777The 64 player version on PC is NOT the same as last gen console 64 player version. There is no crossplay on last gen between PC amd consoles
JOGAGATYA
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@HJ_SpacewarOn PS5 it does not matter if you play 128 or 64. You actually have to play the PS4 version on your PS5 to play properly. (No insta deaths and no kills behind cover etc)
PC players do not have access to this better version of battlefield. Sorry. Fact.

which begs the question: if it can be done on last gen, why it can not be done on new gen??????
HJ_Spacewar
3 years ago
@JOGAGATYA Agreed. I really didn't expect such a difference but it just plays better. Its a shame because I would love to play with the better graphics etc of the Ps5 version.

Maybe it has something to do with crossplay between pc and consoles or maybe they just don't have it optimized very well for next gen/pc.