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Moab23's avatar
Moab23
3 years ago

Weapon Discrepancies

This one has really been getting to me lately. Its watching certain players rack up dozens up dozens of kills in no time at all with a particular weapon: namely the PP-29 or K-30. Yet if you switch to and use these weapons, the outcome is inherently mediocre. I swapped to the K-30 and shot multiple enemy players point blank, and none of them are killed by it. In the same attack, I'm instantly beaned by a PP-29. Switch to a PP-29, and its still taking a third of a mag to kill one person at times. This cannot always just be down to hitreg and latency, because I notice that doesn't come into play from an enemy perspective. If it was just me suffering against them, they wouldn't be racking kills at an accelerated rate. It really seems like certain players don't have to hit people anywhere near as much to kill them, regardless of distance. 

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  • UP_LordPlumber's avatar
    UP_LordPlumber
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Moab23Let's play a game. Give me a gun and I will see what I can do with it. Might aswell record it for you 🙂 Give me PP-29 and I will likely destroy the enemy team into dust
  • Psubond's avatar
    Psubond
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @Moab23 try the portal aim trainer mode and see if you are getting any weird activity on TTK (code AANJ7Z). won't answer your questions but could shed some light on what is going on.

    also note your ping when you do it and when you are playing regular games and getting the situation you described in OP
  • Moab23's avatar
    Moab23
    3 years ago

    @Psubond I ran through that mode a while back and the outcome was the same as it is for solo against bots. One thing I noticed with 2042 solo is that you can still get occasional ping spikes, so it matches fairly well with what I experience in MP (roughly around 24ms). Kills against bots behave exactly as weapons should (four hits on an SFAR is a kill). But its certain players who seem to utterly destroy droves of players in a single magazine with something like the K30, and at range, that doesn't add up (and something you couldn't actually do against bots either). One the other day was up to 14 kills within a minute of the game starting, and by that point I'd barely seen five players to even aim at. 

    I've frequently tested out weapons, attachments, and at particular ranges to see if I can replicate questionable things I experience in MP. Most of the time, I cannot. That includes one hit body kill shots with some of the sniper rifles (when at full health) past a certain distance, which I've experienced several times. Same for the NTW landing a one hit body kill beyond the actual range it can achieve this when you're at full health. 

    In a Rush match yesterday I grabbed a 12M from a downed enemy and unloaded it on a player with about two thirds health standing maybe 10m away. At least five of the rounds connected with them, but they wandered off with health to spare. In the same match, I got obliterated from 100% health by a 12M at three times the distance, using buckshot. Shot period was about half the time I fired, so you're looking at 3-4 rounds only. Its stuff like that which doesn't add up, and its always players that race ahead of others in KDR pulling off these questionable kills. 

  • Moab23's avatar
    Moab23
    3 years ago

    Well, I tried to do the graph thing but I had my topic closed down, go figure. Not that any of these graphs make any sense to me in the first place. 

  • Moab23's avatar
    Moab23
    3 years ago

    @Psubond Am I looking for anything in particular to actually show? The information looked sporadic and wasn't showing much. 

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