Console only crossplay/input based matchmaking

Question

Hello, as a primarily console player from the UK I am finding the current matchmaking with crossplay on dishonest, unfair and discouraging.

DISHONEST
Before the launch of Battlefield 6 there were numerous reports of “Preferred Crossplay”

A system that will match console players with each other AND ONLY FALL BACK ON PC PLAYERS WHEN NEEDED.

This from my testing the past few months has been a complete lie.

Not once have I been placed into a console only server, crossplay servers from the very beginning have been and still are heavily dominated with PC players.

You said one thing and did another.

UNFAIR
Console is restricted, it’s a system that can not offer the variability a PC has. From a Battlefield perspective, this includes;

- Ability to change graphical settings improving visual fidelity

- Ability to have much higher frame rate further reducing input lag

- Ability to disable mouse acceleration

- Ability to modify files/hack the game

I know console users can do some pretty scummy things themselves and I’m not saying that all PC players are hackers, in fact the majority of PC players don’t. But it’s a safe bet to say the majority of hackers are most likely on PC.

DISCOURAGING
It’s hard to keep up on a controller, it’s an uphill battle. The movement, responsiveness and the precision a M&K offers is unmatched. Especially when other factors are in play, like higher FPS, lower input delay, graphical settings and more.

It’s one thing after another as to why PC is the superior platform when it comes to PvP shooters like BF6 and I think it’s wrong to toss console players in with them for the sake of crossplay.

It wouldn’t be as much as an issue if you implemented input based matchmaking.

There would be zero issues if you at least gave us the option to have console only crossplay.

Crossplay Off is already having issues with bot lobbies and long wait times during prime time.

My friends have already moved on as they also do not enjoy crossplay with PC and simply hate the current matchmaking.

So please, MAKE BATTLEFIELD A FAIR PLAYINGFIELD FOR CONSOLE USERS

aj_clickz · Answer

Okay, thanks for your rant about controllers I suppose.. lol saying Aim Assist is better than M&K for shooters is pure propaganda.

To say there are more cheaters on console than on PC…. That’s.. amusing. COD and even Delta Force specifically created console only crossplay due to the amount of cheaters on PC.

chaos-daimos · Answer

WowWhere to start with all that.&nbsp;If you are on a Controller you still have more AI then you could imagine.It appears that they can not allow XBox without allowing PC as well because they are on same port or something like that.It is Obvious that you do not know what you are talking about when you claim that the majority of the cheaters are using PC. Have you even one time searched google for a cheat? They are plentiful, yes for console. The cheaters using PC is old news now Console cheats are the way to go these days.Controllers never have, nor will they ever, have the matrix to perform PvP game play without AI. I remember when controllers were first allowed into PvP gaming. Every one of you felt just like playing a cheat/Bot, And everyone of you still feel just like playing a cheat/bot today. Because in the PvP realm of gaming it was developed with HUMAN Skill being the factor. Anything other then that is a cheat.Not one controller player has ever really played any PvP game and enjoyed it without AI because without AI you would not even be able to Frag and lucky to even navigate the map.Console players parents and you adults that do actually want to gain skill can buy a PC that would run the game as good or even better for the same money these days. Problem is all the console players would not be happy playing without AI.&nbsp;Controllers&nbsp; RUINED PvP-FPS gaming.I am actually excited hearing all the whining and crying about the lack of AI. Controller players should not be in any skill based gaming lobby in the first place. Should have kept them in PacMan and Donkey Kong style games and away from Skill Based Gaming entirely

chaos-daimos · Answer

Yes I ranted about controllers did you not even pay attention to the underlined quote.

Your either one of the cheaters Or you are talking about something you know very little or nothing about.. It took me three minutes and I had already found dozens, A cheat for everything, you can buy some of them but the majority operates on monthly subscriptions. Yes all of them make it The up front guarantee they work on Xbox and PlayStation yes Guarantee that they do and they are updated DAILY. Go look how many are for Pc and how many work on consoles and not PC. For all of you that still think that more people cheat on PC then Controllers are 1. Stuck in denial or 2. Part of the filthily cheating community.

Yes I ditch any controller player in a PvP-FPS game. But they crammed the controllers down the throats until they ruined skill based gaming in general.

So to make statement true Developers Ruined PvP/FPS gaming just to allow controllers and gain revenue.

Have you not noticed that ever since controllers came along at the same time that private servers are no longer allowed that No one plays the older console available games. Because Activision kills them.

Go play CoD4 it is still hot. No controllers that probably excludes you.

iluckybrad · Answer

CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:I remember when controllers were first allowed into PvP gaming. Every one of you felt just like playing a cheat/Bot,Clearly you don’t remember it.Controllers started console PvP FPS with GoldenEye 007 (1997) – pure controller 4 player deathmatch, no aim assist, no “AI matrix,” just raw human skill owning friends on the couch.Then Quake III Arena, Dreamcast (Oct 24, 2000) – Guinness record first online console FPS, played with controllers, zero aim assist, fragging PC players in cross-play.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:It is Obvious that you do not know what you are talking about when you claim that the majority of the cheaters are using PC. Have you even one time searched google for a cheat? They are plentiful, yes for console. The cheaters using PC is old news now Console cheats are the way to go these days.Obvious we don’t know what we're talking about on cheaters? Lol, have you actually looked at the data instead of Googling ‘console cheats’ and calling it a day? CHAOS-DAIMOS​&nbsp;&nbsp;is the classic “controller = aimbot” rant that shows up every time console players complain about crossplay.PC cheats dwarf console ones by scale. EA's kernel-level Javelin anticheat (PC-only, requiring Secure Boot/TPM 2.0) blocked 2.39M attempts since BF6's Oct 10 launch, while crippling 183/190 cheat vendors (96.3% offline/broken). Wallhacks/ESP/radar/aimbots? Strictly PC-exclusive, kernel-nuked impossible on locked consoles.&nbsp; Console Cronus Zen/XIM? Is Banned in waves across PS5, Xbox and PC via server/input/hardware detection. &nbsp;Majority? PC by a mile. Nearly all confirmed cheaters are on PC and it’s nuking PC sweatlords daily.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:It appears that they can not allow XBox without allowing PC as well because they are on same port or something like that.This is false.Ports have nothing to do with crossplay. Xbox, PlayStation, and PC all use many of the same ports, Crossplay is entirely determined by server-side rules and developer choices, not by which port number the traffic flows through.CHAOS-DAIMOS wrote:Controllers&nbsp; RUINED PvP-FPS gaming.I am actually excited hearing all the whining and crying about the lack of AI. Controller players should not be in any skill based gaming lobby in the first place. Should have kept them in PacMan and Donkey Kong style games and away from Skill Based Gaming entirelyThey’ve been part of competitive FPS for over 20 years.Halo, Gears, CoD, Battlefield, Destiny… all massive, skill-based FPS titles built around controllers, with entire esports scenes run on them. If controllers ‘ruined’ anything, publishers, pros, and millions of highly skilled players apparently didn’t get the memo.&nbsp;Skill isn’t tied to a device. M&amp;K has advantages, controllers have advantages. Every modern FPS balances around both. If you can only win when the lobby is curated to your preferred input, that says more about you than it does about controllers.You mock others for ‘whining’ and claim controllers ruined PvP, but your post is nothing but whining about imaginary AI and gatekeeping who’s allowed to play.

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