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RaginSam
Seasoned Ace
2 months ago

Does Dice even have it in them?

I've been playing 2042 daily waiting for BF6, and the more I play it, the angrier I'm becoming. 

I really don't understand how anyone can derive any sort of satisfaction from playing something that feels so out of sync. There has to be something in the code for lag compensation or prediction that is allowed to fluctuate way too much. The desync at time has to be upwards of a 1000-3000ms. 

Here's why I think that. The average reaction time, specifically the time to react to a single event, is about 150-300ms. The lower side of that being exceedingly rare, and it's not something you can really work on, because It's primarily genetics. Then you have to find a target on top of that time. I'll start shooting someone in their side, or even from behind. Yet, they'll have enough time to turn around, figure out where they're being hit from, and keep in mind I use cover whenever I can, so it's not an easy task, then they'll kill me instantly with 5hp. On my screen, they were not looking at me, maybe even shooting at someone else, feel damage from me, time to look over in my direction, figure out exactly where I'm head glitching from, land enough shots to kill me, all of this while I'm hitting them with a full auto rifle. My accuracy stats are on the higher side of average as well. Nothing amazing, but definitely as high or higher than most people that are just melting me in every fight. 

I still can't wrap my head around some players being able to jump around, even after being hit, do all sorts of movements in gunfights, while I die instantly most times. I can do all the things they can, but the game will literally not allow me to play that way. When I try to vault, it feels like an eternity, I have to go through the entire animation 99% of the time, and it feels much slower than what I see other players being able to do. Also, when I get hit, it freezes me in place. I experienced this quite often in the BF6 beta. If the beta had felt different, like it was an improvement over 2042, then I wouldn't be posting these type of threads. 

Maybe my internet isn't the best, but I'm watching all the parameters in game. Only once in a blue moon will I get any sort of warning for packet loss. The rounds I'm having issue with happen regardless of my ping, which is usually 25-60ms, mostly being at 30ms, and to be clear, with no packet loss. 

Why does it feel like I'm playing a different game than some of the other sweaty try hard guys out there? How is it possible that I die before I even peek a corner? 

I finally pre-ordered BF6, but I'm really concerned with this networking. It's going to be the biggest deciding factor if I keep the game or not. Which is a shame, because I like the updates to the aim assist, finally, and the direction they went with the movement. However, I am not putting myself through another several years of being miserable and wondering how in the world the servers are calculating things. 

So, is Dice even capable of delivering a better experience in BF6? I'm not so sure. 

19 Replies

  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    Very insightful as always. 

    I really wish that I could have experienced the older BF games. I wasn't on PC then, and didn't start playing until Bad Company 2. I've heard that with the older Arena shooters you'd have to lead in certain games as well. From some forums I've read, people tend to like how games feel now days, but only when it's working properly. Unfortunately, I've never had the opportunity, so not sure what I'd prefer. 

  • I had to uninstall about a week and a half ago. The game made me so mad. I dont get it. Never had anger like I did with 2042

  • RaginSam's avatar
    RaginSam
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    It happens in waves for me. Like most rounds have moments where I'm like "wtf was that", but it's not for the entire round at least. When that wave hits though, every game is just miserable. I have to go recon, use the tugs, pre-fire every engagement, and be a positioning pro. I will always find a way to go positive, but I have to play like a freaking wizard in order to do that. Meanwhile, I'll watch people run around on stream with zero cover and it's like no one pays any attention to them. In contrast, I die behind cover running from cover to cover, only being exposed for like 100ms. I'll be behind five other soldiers too, and I swear I'm the one that gets beamed. 

    I died while I had a teammate standing directly in front of me. I died instantly, they lived lol. I swear that I'm being punished for having a solid connection, my hit boxes are consistently present, other players, they're shifting all over the place and the server can't figure it out. 

  • Bluebird287's avatar
    Bluebird287
    Seasoned Scout
    24 days ago

    I have identical experience in BTF V as you in BTF 6r. If the servers in the US are filled, i often go there. Having 90 to 94MS ping is MUCH better than having a 8 MS ping. With 8 MS ping, i feel like i am a full second behind gameplay. Seeing the complains of you, makes you wonder if the netcode is identical in btf 6?

  • Capajebo's avatar
    Capajebo
    Seasoned Newcomer
    15 days ago

    I feel like maybe there's some improvement playing against a certain ping range, but against players above a certain range it feels like it's back to 2042 again. It's not as frustrating as in 2042 since you no longer have players who do magical things like wall scan and whatnot, but it still needs work.

  • I'm glad this thread resurfaced.

    This is happening constantly now to the point I actively avoid head on engagements at all costs because I get melted the moment an enemy appears in front of me, the feeling like your character gets frozen and you don't get a chance to click the mouse, you just die, I have resorted to "camping" somewhat as its the only way to give myself a fair chance.

  • ewan154's avatar
    ewan154
    Seasoned Adventurer
    15 days ago

    I feel as soon as someone see's me I'm dead.  I seem to die with one shot kills.

  • ewan154's avatar
    ewan154
    Seasoned Adventurer
    3 days ago

    same here. people are killing me with one shot. I have to empty a magazine into someone to kill them.

  • ewan154's avatar
    ewan154
    Seasoned Adventurer
    3 days ago

    I think EA ripped us off with this game, the beta was perfect, but this version is very rude word.

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