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Ludovic97438
Rising Adventurer
10 hours ago

Major imbalance coming on the maps where the two-seaters arrived

Hello,

Since Update 2.1.2.0, the base jets have been replaced by the Top Gun two-seaters (F/A-81F Super Spectre and F-74A Seacat) on Tsuru Reef, Blackwell Fields and Operation Firestorm. No more F-61V / F-22 for NATO, no more F39-E / SU-57 for Pax Armata. This change isn’t mentioned anywhere in the update notes.

I play almost exclusively as a jet pilot, with close to 500 hours on the base jets. I uninstalled the game yesterday because of this change. Here’s why it isn’t just a matter of personal taste.

  1. These maps aren’t built for two-seaters
    Since the last AA tank buff, survival time in a jet on these maps is already very short. Tanks get elevation on the terrain, line up at jet altitude and shred you in one burst. The players who like the two-seaters will try them for a few days, get destroyed over and over, and quit too. Nobody wins here.
  2. It throws off the whole ground balance
    The two-seaters’ air-to-ground loadout is far less effective against armor than the F-61V’s or the F39-E’s. The result: tanks no longer get destroyed from the air, and it’s the infantry on the ground that ends up facing a pile of armor. This doesn’t only affect pilots
  3.  

I’m not the only one: I opened a thread on r/PilotsofBattlefield and it reached the top of the subreddit, with several pilots reporting the same issue and asking for the base jets back. Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/PilotsofBattlefield/comments/1xsunl3/2120_removed_the_base_jets_on_blackwell_firestorm/

Two possible solutions

Solution 1 (the best one): bring back the base jets on these three maps, as it was before 2.1.2.0. These maps were balanced with those jets in mind.

Solution 2: if you want to keep the two-seaters on these maps, let us pick our aircraft at deploy, like we could in BF2042. Each side would choose between its base jets and the two two-seaters, with a 2-jets-airborne limit per team. Everyone flies what they prefer, and the number of aircraft in the sky doesn’t change. (Mockup attached, not an in-game screenshot.)

If this is a bug, please fix it. If it’s intentional, please reconsider.

Platform: PC
Mode: Conquest

3 Replies

  • UniverusDOTO's avatar
    UniverusDOTO
    New Traveler
    3 hours ago

    not mainly a jet player , i play everything, but i can fully understand the state how aircraft specialy jet fighter is in this game ... i fly too, but just enough to understand how to fly it properly, in case no one in my team use any jet ( whichis now happen in F14 and F22, player barely use it) ... i dont need to going up into "Silk" piloting level ... bcs i understand its doesnt worth it grinding and mastering the jet at full 100% in this game, specially in this season .

    i dont blame them for the player that dont know how to fly jet in bf6, bcs ofcs they cant , how they can learn to fly if the state of the gameplay is like this?. similiar thing when new beginer player cant learn how to fly choper in S1-S2 ..... just take a look, even us , you and me got the experience , i believe we are get smoked and melted by numerus diabolical nonsense things in d game ... even Silk or CCB-TOPGUN (the top pilot compe player in my server) are strugling flying in this game and left long time ago .

    thanks for the guide compliment , ofcs u alr knw it , i just write that down in case other ppl read it, bcs i care and understand, its harsh and brutal to fly a jet in this game , specially in the learning / grinding / mastering stage.

    im also done with this game , not uninstall it yet , bcs sometimes i playing it if only all of my buddy ask me to login.

  • Ludovic97438's avatar
    Ludovic97438
    Rising Adventurer
    7 hours ago

    At first I loved these jets, but over time I got tired of it — everyone was rushing to get one without actually knowing how to fly them. I ended up getting bored and went back to only playing maps with the original jets. Now that they’ve put them there too, I can’t stand these jets anymore and I don’t like them at all, I don’t even know why.

    Your F18 guide is cool but I already know all of this — a few sessions in and you stop caring. What I enjoy is winning and farming kills, nothing else matters to me. I have nothing to prove, I’m top 10 worldwide in jets with 500h of flight and a very high kill rate. That was the only way I had fun, and now that they’ve taken that away from me, I’m done with this game.

  • they are not going to do it , they dont care, and they have no idea how battlefield gameplay is actualy should be .... the vehicle gameplay is terrible , but if we talking about aircraft, its ridiclous ... ive been playing since the game release , and never forget how diabolical TOWs and MBTs guided shells is in S1 and S2 ... its a prov that the devs have no capabilites / competent to create battlefield game, sepcailly in term of vehicle gameplay.

    just f**k this game dude ... in one thing ,the vehicle is so broken and op but in d stupid ways , on otherhand its sucks , i cant write down all the things bcs its just too much stupiditis , (focused on aircraft) ... cant write it all ,  but ill write down some example).

    - stupid diabolical overtune maingun AA (well i embrace AA maingun buff since the begining , but not like this , specially the stationary AA , like wtf?) ... also im wondering, why tf put gepard/tunguska as AA ...... just brngback LAV-AD , fix everything.

    - 850m range AGM Attheli ... stupid , most of locks on is 600-650m ... and thermal optic on attheli gunner? jsut stupid decisiion by the devs ... its shldnt be at att heli ... i mean , if the att heli got thermal optic, then put all vehicle thermal optic , why only on att heli ... if other vehicle dont have thermal optic, then att heli shldnt .

    - AttHeli is actualy is the worst attheli on the entire battlefield franchise ,,, the only thing good about attheli is on gunner seat,

    - a jet can shoot , target , and locks 360degree? even backward? LMFAO, is F14, F16, F18 can actualy can do that IRL? / other video game? just stupid ... its not modern fighter jet ,, its futuristic scfi jedi starwars / star citizen / warhammer / nomansky fighter jet .

    - Stupid no skill ez no effort 1hit aircarft by AT4 1 shot almost all aircraft

    - Lockon bug go thru flare still exist

    - battlefield 6 , is the only game that APACHE can meltdown all jets fighter , even a 5thgen ( F22 - F57) jet so ez ... ty so those diabolical combination of  (Smart / Aim Rocket + Lock-on + Fly assist )

    - Jet alr have infinity flare , then on F14 - F18 , we can use 2x flare , yeah stupid.

    - The light rocken on LB is still op btw , but rn , player more prefer smart/rocket , whichis a prove how diabolical the smart/aim rocket pods actualy is.

    - and etc etc so on , so on, cant write it all.

    the only time i enjoy this game is :
    S1 - S2 (Infantry gameplay) bcs at this season the vehilce gameplay is just stupid
    and then at S4 (topgun) airstrike event thats it. S3-S5-S6 , vehilce gameplay sucks , and then they ruin infatnry gameplay.

    im level 800 , got 2k++ ingame on BF6 , so tired of all this stupidity , im done. 

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    Btw, for who ever read this post ...  if u wanna fly jet , just fly F18 , its the only option playable jet, even as solo, but ofcs its far more better if u have co-pilot friend that connect with you , but still F18 is strong even fly as solo.

    my loadout recomendation for solo pilot F18:
    Pilot seat ->
    -Use any canon
    -Auto-Guided Missile 
    -Cluster bomb
    Co-Pilot Seat ->
    -Remote Active weapon AA Missile
    -Remote Precision Penetration bomb

    the way to play , is similiar when flying Attheli as solo , change seat playstyle.
    lets say the target any armored vehicle ,,, specialy Anti Air (stationary / mobile ) or Himars :

    Fly high and far -> Change Seat , Drop a bomb in co-pilot seat ( its doesnt matter gonna hit or not , jsut drop it , if its hit, then its good) -> back to pilot seat (never engage frontaly , try engage from behind or atleast side / above) -> engage full afterburner (u have to engage / fly quick and fast or u r going to get melted , bcs the AA maingun or AT4 is diabolical) -> Shoot Auto-Guided missile -> Strife Gun -> Drop Cluster 2x -> Fly high -> change to co-pilot (if gettin lock, use co-pilot flare) then drop the bomb again -> Fly low and escape ( then use pilot flare if needed ... always use co-pilot seat flare first).

    its guarantee any armor will be deleted , yes its so complicated , and require a some skills compare the guys who sitting in AA-Mobile near/HQ  ....... but its what its.

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