Re: The Portal XP Nerf and the Betrayal of "Full Progression" - Targeted Solutions

agree

agree with everything but one point, and that is the main issue being xp farmers. the main issue imo is the absurd amount of time to complete some of these challenges, which in turn create the environment of xp farming. Now, the xp farmers will simply find another way to exploit the system (they always do) and we the player-base will still suffer in someway or another. What they need to do is tune the challenges.

agree

Agreed. Well, we don't matter. A very very small percentage of players abused something, which had no impact on the rest of us anyway. And enough people complained about the bot xp lobbies that had no impact on their own accounts. 

I didn't care that some dude on reddit was boasting about his 20:1 KDR... He was only doing it to get people all tilted. Clearly succeeding. They posted everywhere because they knew it was the perfect bait to get people all bent. And it worked. But it didn't affect me in any way, shape, or form. So I just shrugged it off as your typical online troll. 

EA clearly took it too personally. 

As for the rest of us that were joining servers just to have a good time with our friends.... DICE just gave us all the finger. 

Fortunately, I am still in time for a Paypal dispute and it is worth loosing an account to get my money back. Because after this I know what to expect going forward. More of this.

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Completely  agree  Thanks to farmers no full xp  how unfair  ive been forced to play official servers since realese thanks to farmers  & im getting tired of the sweats already im happy theres server space but now there's no point in playing portal  zero progress in game 

portal & private servers was the hole reason I purchased bf6 in the first place  ... the majority of the players  that want to create a ligit experiences shouldn't have to suffer due to the actions of a few   it effects so many types of modes & play stlyes I hope portal will get full xp back at some point   tbh ill probably quit playing if the xp nerf stays permanently  

Negative Effects to players 

Xp Nerft hardcore players 

Xp Nerft relism players 

Xp nerf max tickets servers 

Xp nerf 24/7 maps servers 

Xp nerf fast vechile spawn servers 

Xp nerf for casual players or new players 

Xp nerf for people with disabilities 

THANKS RUINING PORTAL FARMERS 🤬

I agree, but I legitimately don't think XP farmers are an issue, all they are doing is affecting their own progression. Why should anyone care? The real core issue is the assignments and insane grind for attachments and levels. I have been trying to do the first Support assignment for multiple days now and cannot get the players healed to go up more than a little bit each match, it's ridiculous. Same for the Assault Kills while using Adrenaline challenge, I can maybe get 1 or 2 per match, needing to do 30 when the injector itself is really useless is so annoying. These wouldn't even need to be adjusted THAT much, just lower the requirements so players can actually unlock the gadgets they want without having to grind through them for hours. If this grindiness is not fixed, I genuinely might just drop the game entirely, glad I got 1 month of EA Play Pro instead of dropping 70€ for this.

I agree they killed it

Yeah the way they handled the xp farms clogging the game was...not wise lol.

XP farms are a symptom of decoupling attachments and gadgets from level. DICE is literally creating an environment that's incredibly hostile to new players since those attachments are game-defining in terms of bloom, recoil, aiming, etc.

1. pidgeonofdeath wrote:

   THANKS RUINING PORTAL FARMERS 🤬

   Farmers did not ruin the portal.

   EA did because:

   1. They created the attachment grind that encouraged people to seek shortcuts.
   2. They cheaped out and did not get enough server capacity for all the active players they wanted to have
   3. They chose to nuke progression for everyone instead of just adjusting bots to not be worth farming over players.

I completely agree. And not only did they kill Portal, but they removed the EA sponsored mixed bot and player mode in training grounds. I'm very much a casual gamer and Battlefield was the last casual shooter out there, but it seems they aren't interested in that anymore. Thankfully I didn't buy the game, just got EA Pro. I'm canceling after this month until they bring back some kind of Solo Mode. 

Portal is just trash period. They need to go back to old school rented servers. Same is was Bf2 BF3 BF4. Even though portal is free id gladly pay the server rental fee as we did before to have our own servers we can run as we see fit again. 

Agreed, and well stated.

I played mainly in Portal. Not in these so called 'xp farms', but in mixed lobbies with bots and (sometimes lots of) human players. For me, it was ideal, balanced entertainment after a stressful day's work. 

I'm getting older, I don't feel the need to compete in constant razor sharp PvP. I don't care about stats. I play for entertainment. I play for fun.

Now Dice is taking away all XP in all lobbies with bots, because it is "unintended behavior" according to their own statement. Unintended? They repeat what they did with Portal 2042. How can that be unintended? It wasn't unintended until they sold the game, it seems. 

Fun not intended.

It is a mystery to me why so many people on the internet feel the need to police other people's fun in games. 

For every reason I've read here and more, despite the fact that the gameplay was a big step forward, everything from the portal to the menus has been a dumpster fire. Used to play with a couple friends 3 or 4 nights a week to de-stress, and now I'm just angry after the first 15 minutes....and playing together obviously isn't happening. I was going to be patient and wait for the server capacity, but this latest stunt was the last straw. I'd rather grind on something cartoon-ish like COD than waste another minute of my time for their player retention metrics. 

After years of Battlefield failures, the cheaters and farmers can keep this abomination, because I'm out for good this time. 

Totally agree. It’s not fair to the larger player base but also to the subset of us who enjoy playing bots and still want to progress even if it’s nerfed progression. I’m a dad who works fulltime. I don’t have a lot of time to play video games and when I do sometimes I don’t feel like going against chronically online sweats. I just want to chill, listen to music and shoot bots. Why can’t I have that ea?

I completely agree that EA has betrayed its promise and disappointed all the players who believed in it. Hard to imagine that I also said something similar about bf2042. Do they have a path dependence on their failure?🤔

The adrenaline injector is completely useless, why is this even in the game, it lasts like 4 - 5 seconds and does absolutely nothing, they should change it to a rapid heal. The assault class is the weakest and most useless, having the ability to carry two weapons but the ammo cut in half is the same as having one weapon.

TheFreeRangeNug wrote:

A Battlefield veteran who’s tired of watching history repeat itself.

2042 is literally repeating itself.

This is far, far worse than 2042 because attachments are decoupled from total level. So now you're going to have noobs getting wrecked by people with good grips, suppressors, scopes and the sigh RaNgeFiNdEr.