This isn't a rant or anything, it's just an unbiased concern, wondering how others feel about this.Both Modern Warfare and Cold War launched with a battle royale. This is fine. People can play it if they want.However, Warzone has unlocks - weapons, skins - which are directly tied to it. These aren't warzone-specific unlocks, they are for multiplayer and such. This is not fine.It turned out that a staggering amount of players despised having to play a completely different game they didn't care about just to complete challenges for multiplayer Modern Warfare/Cold War, and ended up refunding or stopped playing the game entirely. A greater amount of players also expressed that it was too late to refund the game and they're just playing to get their money's worth, but are unhappy about being forced to play an entirely different game every single season to get the unlock they want.I hope this doesn't happen with Battlefield 6. It sounds like a nice game. Don't want this ruining it for anyone. Does anyone else feel worried about this?

Hey @Vi2427 I seem to remember them trying that when Firestorm was first released, as they had Tides of War chapter tasks which were BR oriented. There was a lot of negative feedback if memory serves and don't think it was tried again.We'll need to wait and see what happens with the BR that BF6 will supposedly include, but at the moment I'm not worried myself right now.

How to lose 30% of your playerbase in Battlefield 6

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ElliotLH
Hero+
5 years ago
Hey @Vi2427 I seem to remember them trying that when Firestorm was first released, as they had Tides of War chapter tasks which were BR oriented. There was a lot of negative feedback if memory serves and don't think it was tried again.

We'll need to wait and see what happens with the BR that BF6 will supposedly include, but at the moment I'm not worried myself right now.
CarbonCarl
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@Vi2427
I agree.

I play and enjoy Warzone but I refuse to buy CoD titles purely to have to unlock guns etc. That being said I love the battlefield series so I always buy their titles anyway.
But yes let’s hope DICE don’t implement a similar system.
poohty_t
5 years ago
I agree. As someone who personally loves the BR gamemode, it would be very dumb to hide unlocks from other MP modes to where you had to play BR to unlock them to use them elsewhere. Thats just totally dumb . Hopefully Dice learned a lot from past mistakes and others mistakes.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
ElliotLH
Hero+
5 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
That's actually summed up why I've not bothered with the Easter egg skin in BFV - can't unlock it solo so won't get it at all.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@ElliotLH wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
That's actually summed up why I've not bothered with the Easter egg skin in BFV - can't unlock it solo so won't get it at all.
I simply don't get the angst over something so inconsequential as skins, must be an age thing.
Vi2427
5 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
That's actually summed up why I've not bothered with the Easter egg skin in BFV - can't unlock it solo so won't get it at all.
I simply don't get the angst over something so inconsequential as skins, must be an age thing.
Skins are really not what Battlefield is about, it's moreso the weapon assignments, which is what I'm mainly concerned about. I'm not sure what happened with Firestorm - wasn't there for that. However, I'd imagine anyone not interested in Battle Royale style games would have no good things to say about an implementation where weapon assignments for multiplayer Battlefield must be completed in the rumored Battle Royale. In translating from what I mentioned of MW/CW to Battlefield, I basically meant weapon/gadget/vehicle loadout assignments, the actual meat of Battlefield unlocks.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Vi2427 wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
That's actually summed up why I've not bothered with the Easter egg skin in BFV - can't unlock it solo so won't get it at all.
I simply don't get the angst over something so inconsequential as skins, must be an age thing.
Skins are really not what Battlefield is about, it's moreso the weapon assignments, which is what I'm mainly concerned about. I'm not sure what happened with Firestorm - wasn't there for that. However, I'd imagine anyone not interested in Battle Royale style games would have no good things to say about an implementation where weapon assignments for multiplayer Battlefield must be completed in the rumored Battle Royale. In translating from what I mentioned of MW/CW to Battlefield, I basically meant weapon/gadget/vehicle loadout assignments, the actual meat of Battlefield unlocks.
Weapon assignments are a different kettle of fish.
That said, unless said weapon is a must have, I refer you to my earlier post.
CarbonCarl
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
@Trokey66 wrote:
@Vi2427 wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
@ElliotLH wrote:
@Trokey66 wrote:
I find it very difficult to get upset over skins.

If a skin is behind an activity I don't like, I don't get it.

If I really want the skin (unlikely) , I suck it up and do it.....
That's actually summed up why I've not bothered with the Easter egg skin in BFV - can't unlock it solo so won't get it at all.
I simply don't get the angst over something so inconsequential as skins, must be an age thing.
Skins are really not what Battlefield is about, it's moreso the weapon assignments, which is what I'm mainly concerned about. I'm not sure what happened with Firestorm - wasn't there for that. However, I'd imagine anyone not interested in Battle Royale style games would have no good things to say about an implementation where weapon assignments for multiplayer Battlefield must be completed in the rumored Battle Royale. In translating from what I mentioned of MW/CW to Battlefield, I basically meant weapon/gadget/vehicle loadout assignments, the actual meat of Battlefield unlocks.
Weapon assignments are a different kettle of fish.
That said, unless said weapon is a must have, I refer you to my earlier post.
It’s not skins I’m referring to in regards to Warzone. There are many guns that you can use in Warzone that you can only acquire through buying the multiplayer game(s) or by purchasing a specific pack if one becomes available, which still only gives you a specific variant.
This wouldn’t matter too much but they’re some of the best guns available for Warzone. The AMAX has been a top gun for many seasons and I would have to buy Modern Warfare if I wanted to use it in Warzone. That is what I’d like DICE not to do. Don’t be putting the best guns behind what is essentially a paywall.
Teal_Pipo_Fredo
5 years ago
@Vi2427 wrote:
This isn't a rant or anything, it's just an unbiased concern, wondering how others feel about this.
Both Modern Warfare and Cold War launched with a battle royale. This is fine. People can play it if they want.
However, Warzone has unlocks - weapons, skins - which are directly tied to it. These aren't warzone-specific unlocks, they are for multiplayer and such. This is not fine.
It turned out that a staggering amount of players despised having to play a completely different game they didn't care about just to complete challenges for multiplayer Modern Warfare/Cold War, and ended up refunding or stopped playing the game entirely. A greater amount of players also expressed that it was too late to refund the game and they're just playing to get their money's worth, but are unhappy about being forced to play an entirely different game every single season to get the unlock they want.
I hope this doesn't happen with Battlefield 6. It sounds like a nice game. Don't want this ruining it for anyone. Does anyone else feel worried about this?
I hope DLC stuff would be introduced without any walls for us. Keeping playing field as equal as possible so matches aren't decided by 'arms race' type of situation. I feel that's for healthier environment. Completionist/progression assignments should focus on other things like dog tags and other cosmetics which doesn't affect the gameplay.