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- i know how to deal with chembuggys the issue is if i change my deck to have a easy time against chembuggys i will lose because the buggy isnt most highly played. BUT because of it strenght vs infanterie u force your enemie into a reaction other units dont do. its just to strong in its spot. with a tank u can counter it but a tank is a easy victim to air or anti vehicle infanterie. just practice with chembuggys and u will never play without them, no other unit offers so much value. its true that u rarely kill a equal amount of tib with the buggy it self but because of what the buggy causes u get more then even and win the game in many cases.
i win more than i lose and i play buggy but its insanly frustrating to lose against players wich just win because the buggy is such a nobrainer and as i said befor it offers a insane advantage if u have unitlvl advantage anyways. - BattaIia7 years agoSeasoned Acewell that is 2 different issues. Either chem buggy is OP, or unit levels are OP, but not both at the same time. And I did play with chem buggy. I dropped them for flames because chem buggies can't hold pads and are poor value, and synergize poorly with NOD's strong warfactory. I also tried venoms but the same issue persisted. Chem buggie is just okay right now. Can be frustrating playing against someone with levels, but it doesn't make much of a difference in the balance of the chem buggie.
- add me ingame and i show u my last game and u will see. chembuggys are to strong at countering infantrie. one chembuggy shutdown entire lineups. its just to strong in its spot. if the dps would be at least in line with the other buggys... but dps + soup on the ground + speed + raider is just to much for one unit.
- BattaIia7 years agoSeasoned Acesure, whats your ID? Or you can send me a friend request, currently at 59th on the leaderboard.
- BattaIia7 years agoSeasoned AceAlright, so I sat down and watched a good handful of your games. None of the games you built a chem buggy did it have a massive impact, in fact most of the time flames would have done the exact same thing for you. However, one game where you played AGAINST it stuck out to me, and you as well since you shared it. He bike rushed you, and you defended with rockets. He brought out a chem buggy and 2 of your rockets took it out without losing a squad. He built another and you only lost 1 squad to it before the other one and an orca knocked it out. So really, chem buggy isn't OP, it's the player behind it that is. If I missed a game that you feel is significant, let me know.
On a side note, your fav unit, the chem buggy has a 58% win rating and your weekly best chem buggy deck has a 63% win rating. While that is very respectable, that isn't anything to get excited about either.
On a suggestion note, I thing having both chem buggy and chem warriors in the same list is a waste. Right now 50% of your deck is dedicated anti-infantry with 3 generalist units. I'd probably drop chem buggy (but since you love it so much perhaps chem troopers) for a scorpion or stealth tank myself. - You can't take down a chem buggy with GDI rocket troopers no matter what anyone says if they are moving. I've only been able to do it a few times because the player was inexperienced and parked his chem buggy right in the middle of my 2 sets of rocket troopers. On the contrast, you can easily take down GDI tanks and buggies with laser troopers even if they are moving. The only counter is vehicles and air power. It isn't balanced.
- BattaIia7 years agoSeasoned Aceif all you bring is a single laser squad and your job is to kill my predator tank, you won't ever fire a shot off. not even jjt do well catching tanks.
I mean, put it to you guys this way, if these units everyone claims are OP or unfair are indeed OP and unfair... how come they aren't used by the top players in the world? These guys are ALWAYS exploiting the strongest units. Let's see how far we have to go to see a chem buggy: Alright, top 20 players playing NOD aren't using it. Chem warriors popped up a few times, because they are legit scary right now. (on a side note, if you want something to complain about, a chem warrior beats a predator tank 1v1 right now. Of course that isn't any serious as the tank can just go in and out to shoot, but if left idle, a predator tank losing to a dedicated anti-infantry trooper is crazy!) - dude it seems like u are unable to see whats happening. buggy isnt carrying but the reaction u force with the buggy is. as i said befor u cut out one class of tech with the buggy and that wins u the game. it is to strong! watch my nod games. i know how to play against buggy but thats not where u see how it is to strong
- BattaIia7 years agoSeasoned AceI watched all of your games. I seen poor players? But I did not see your chem buggy shut down the barracks. Snipers used to shut down the enemy barracks hard. That was rough. As is, rockets, lasers, jjt, mg with a blocker all do respectably well against chem buggy, and soon gdi is getting grenadiers who BEAT chem buggy. If the chem buggy shut down a building, you would see one in every NOD deck of the top players because that is INSANE value. But they aren't there because they don't. Sure, chem buggy may have the same effect on a bad player as a scarab does, heaven knows we get a post about scarabs every other day even though scarabs are legit trash, and an instant loss if someone ever plays them against a good player, but we still have players complain about them. Same with chem buggy. It's not OP, it's simply okay. If you want to try out your chem buggy against any of my decks, let me know and I'd be happy to do a private game with you. But they won't have the desired effect.
chembuggy is to strong.. it seems like u didnt watch any of my games. it just wins games on its own. specialy because it has raider. Unbelievable u are unable to see that just because most tib players are p2w guys without any skill or brain... to bad and srsly most of the games i lose are because enemie is running chembuggys. there is no other unit killing infanterie like that and it needs some balancing! i just played another 5 games and at least 3 of them got desided by chembuggy. if u cant relize it u are blind. buggy cuz a reaction if u just play infanterie instat your enemie goes lol and counters it with wheels or wardogs also buggys are fast and have raider. your flametroops dont.
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