After installing patch 3, all my crafted shields had their armor rating reset to 0 and every time I try to craft a Darkspawn Alpha Shield and equip it on my main character, it's gone after a save/load. No way around it, it disappears every time. Others on the forum have reported the same issue. Would appreciate a hotfix, since I can't really play my sword & shield guy with half of his weaponry missing.
Hey Nils,
I do appreciate the updates and the fact that the devs are working on this, but I hope the respect and understanding goes both ways. I've played Inquisition for 67 hours on patch 2 with very few problems except for a few sidequests that are impossible to finish and the occasional stretch of silence between banter. Then, patch 3 hits, and now I'm more or less stuck in Skyhold because parts of my equipment are useless and I don't know if I should craft new ones, because an eventual fix might mess these up in turn.
You guys made a wonderful game and I've had a blast playing through it up to this point, but post-launch support has been a bit lackluster so far.
Thanks for the updates Nils. Guess I'll pause my playthought until it's fixed.
For once, I say testers are not to blame (not entirely) for that. You can't expect a full betatest of the game with every single patch (that'd be madness, I think), althought if I were the boss of the betatesting department, I'd have a very serious word with my workers with every quest I couldn't possibly complete (AKA, Pallin and Quarry Quaundry).
It's their job to investigate every possible outcome of every quest, after all, and if they can't catch up something as simple as Pallin not being avaliable in Sahrnia if you judge her early, thus being unable to complete the quest, well...:catmad:
Gladitorium, what are you talking about? Of course nobody expects a full beta test for every patch, that would be insane. I expected for them to have a look through the inventory of several savegames, provided by QA (hell QA should be the ones doing it probably).
In patch 2 they didn't have a look at characters to start with. Just a few savegames loaded into a low-preset-configuration would've revealed characters having aged a hundred years. Looking...is it really asked to much? ☹️
@GODzillaGSPB wrote:Gladitorium, what are you talking about? Of course nobody expects a full beta test for every patch, that would be insane. I expected for them to have a look through the inventory of several savegames, provided by QA (hell QA should be the ones doing it probably).
In patch 2 they didn't have a look at characters to start with. Just a few savegames loaded into a low-preset-configuration would've revealed characters having aged a hundred years. Looking...is it really asked to much? ☹️
And if in Patch 2 or 3 they had screwed up some quest, would you have "expected" them to have a look at all the quests of the game then?
Like if testers were mediums who exactly knows the area where something was messed up with the latest patch :P
How about some shades of grey instead of black and white? Having a look at all quests or even a part of them is considerbly more difficult than having a look at item categories. I know there are many items, but QA in their beta test definitely made tons of savegames of different characters with different items. Picking some of them out for future beta tests is something I'd consider a standard.
There ought to be different stages of beta test for different projects. A game gets a full one, a DLC a medium one and a patch a quick one. With obvious bugs like this it's hard to believe there was a test at all...
I repeat: programming is sometimes pretty unpredictable. You fix one thing, and in the process you screw something up in the least predictable direction. Yeah, maybe they should have done a quick general look before releasing the patch, but being that bug so specific (only affecting crafted shields), it's even possible they've done it and just overlooked that.
And I also repeat that you can't betatest every slight detail of the entire game with every patch, which would be the ideal solution. So I guess the devs are more like "I touch this and hope I don't screw anything" than anything else.
As I said that I'd mostly fire those betatesters who leave quests untested, I'd be more comprehensive with those involuntary mistakes. That's something called being 'reasonable'.
Maybe I forgot about it, but when I think back at games in 2014 or 2013...I don't remember a time where I had to pause a game and wait for a hotfix to fix a patch. And now this happened twice with two patches from Bioware. So...is it really me being too demanding here? Mhm...
@GODzillaGSPB wrote:Maybe I forgot about it, but when I think back at games in 2014 or 2013...I don't remember a time where I had to pause a game and wait for a hotfix to fix a patch. And now this happened twice with two patches from Bioware. So...is it really me being too demanding here? Mhm...
Bad luck :P
Happened to me too with Skyrim. And?
I have to be absolutely honest here, I'm not a professional beta tester, though I have done it before. And partly due to my job and personality I can be quite detail oriented and **bleep** about some things.
However, after patch 3 I posted about the walk/run toggle not working (later solved as the fps fix is the problem) I completely missed that the shield's armor ratings were 0, simply because during that particular 1-2 hour session, I didn't re-equip or craft new gear. Even if I crafted new gear I still may have missed it as I vendored the old shield if i wasn't paying attention.
I only knew about it because someone on the walk/run toggle thread mentioned it... While I'm frustrated too, I think it's we need to chill, I want it to be fixed asap too but for now it's only been a day or 2. I'll give Nils the benefit of doubt for now. But if it takes 2-3 weeks then that would test my patience. In this case it's something that will affect your playthrough quite significantly.
Then there are all the other bugs... When will the "The Fall" mosaic in Hinterlands be fixed for example? While not game breaking per-se I'd like to see those get fixed too...
I'm not saying they shouldn't be completely blameless nor am I saying we should crucify the devs/testers. But we're all human, we all make mistakes, some bigger some smaller, some unforgivable. I just saying we should have some moderation.
I'm also not blaming specific people. Of course one can miss certain issues. Two can miss vertain issues. Even three or more people could make mistakes. My naive hope though is that there are more than a handfull in Biowares QA department.
Well...I too like to play DAI on the weekend, but I have a backup plan: I never actually took Iron Bull with me because he is not a real tank (and since my own character is an archer I need a tank normally). I guess I'll take him for a stroll. :D
