Formula 1 2024 MUST come with PSVR2 availability. GT7 is definitely a game changer for lovers of speed and racing simulators. The Formula 1 category is by far one of the most modern sports categories in the world and at the forefront of launches and developments, etc. It's almost like the space industry works (laughs). What is your opinion about this? Should the game come with the possibility of PSVR2? If it doesn't come at launch, is it due to an update?

@TheRagebeard wrote:@SteveJackson "And I am obviously in a shocking subset who would rather the game was better than supported VR in any fashion!" you are not part of a shocking subset. 95%+ of the people who buy this game would prefer a better overall experience to having VR capabilities. The average consumer who's going to buy this game not only doesn't have VR they don't even have a wheel.Many people overlook the fact that as "hardcore" players who spent a bunch on money on a sim racing setup we tend to normalize that "hardcoreness" both because we hang around this board with other hardcore sim racers and our IRL friends tend to skew towards hardcore sim racing. As you mention the population as a whole is a bunch on controller Charlies who save they're money for other interests or to diversify their collection of games.TLDR: I completely agree with you, throw VR in throw and focus on making a decent game.I was being a little facetious.The point is twofold, even those that buy VR don’t always want to use it for racing. So it does seem that 1.1% may be a generous figure. And @mariohomoh is correct, if resources are tight VR is the last thing to develop.

@superhoops82 wrote:@Cpayne32 I imagine the number of PSVR2 players buying F124 if it supported the headset would be a fair bit higher than that. Certainly at least 100,000 if you align it to number of RE4 remake players playing that game in VR. I imagine there is less uptake of individual horror games in VR, firstly because they are scary as hell on VR (from personal opinion) and secondly because there is a large selection of games like that already. F124 only has GT7 to compete against and F124 would offer something very different with it having real life drivers and a proper real life championship to take part in with actual qualifying and standing grid starts. Just looking on the comments for F124 on EA F1 twitter (sorry, X), the most requested things appear to be better graphics, more realism with the physics, better helmet design and PSVR2 support. There is a target audience of 1.3 million PSVR2 users (maybe more) if they add the support. Those are not small numbers. Now is a better time than any with GT7 being the only racing game available for it currently. Personally, I think F1 game sales would have a better chance of improving by adding a feature that is actually adding something significant to the game rather than adding features like "improved handling" which are purely subjective and seems to be a thing that is added every year. I keep seeing comments that the game hasn't really changed since 2020 (some even saying since 2016) and that year on year sales are in the decline. Think they're missing a trick here to be honest and seem happy enough to offer the bare minimum with their annual updates.Out of interest, what is needed to improve the career mode? I've not played an F1 game since 2020 and would only play career mode, but I don't know what more I'd personally want from it. Seemed to have a lot to do in it back in 2020 and didn't really have any complaints about it myself back then. I would definitely want to do the podium ceremony on PSVR2 though. That would be awesome. Is that in there on PC VR?You're deluded to push your personal agenda like that. Cloud cuckoo land. A real captain of industry.

They really need to add PSVR2 compatibility. There is a big target audience out there who own the headset and who are in awe of how it works with GT7 (like I am). This could be a real headset seller for those who haven't bought it yet as F1's popularity is huge. I've got no interest in buying an F1 game without PSVR2 support. Once you race in VR, there is no going back. There is also only one VR racing game for PSVR2, so I'd say a hefty percentage of the 1.3 million (?) PSVR2 owners would pick this up.

Honestly, it's a fairly simple equation for CM. How easy/time consuming is it to implement PSVR2?What percentage of our players play on PlayStation?Of those who play on PS5 how many have virtual reality headsets?TLDR, You need to reach come sort of critical mass in terms of player base to make it worthwhile and I'm inclined to agree with @ScarDuck14 that it seems unlikely.Also given the number of bugs, glitches and lack of innovation relating to core gameplay features that tend to accompany every new release I think the community would be better served by them focusing on those issues instead of implementing something that's going to be used by less than 5% of the player base.

Come on, guys...EA has tons of info and insights about the gaming market and gamers preferences. Easy to presume that if this implementation was really profitable in terms of compressing it into a already tight development schedule, perhaps leading to other improvements being dropped, it would be already done.Not to mention that developing in PCs is way easier than on consoles, actually this could be the no-go for PSVR2.Time is expensive and maybe we need to look the bigger picture.

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ScarDuck14
Legend
11 months ago
@superhoops82There are countless more applications other than games that VR is used for on PC hence why quest has sold so many.
I know how much a Pint is. I live in east London
superhoops82
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@superhoops82There are countless more applications other than games that VR is used for on PC hence why quest has sold so many.
I know how much a Pint is. I live in east London
Don't forget, you don't need a PC to use a Quest...
ScarDuck14
Legend
11 months ago
@superhoops82Did I not mention pc that post🤷🏻‍♂️😂. Incidentally there are countless millions more PC than there are PS5s
superhoops82
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 wrote:
@superhoops82Did I not mention pc that post🤷🏻‍♂️😂. Incidentally there are countless millions more PC than there are PS5s
I said you DON'T need a PC to use a Quest, which makes it significantly cheaper than PSVR2 which requires a PS5, plus the PSVR2 headset alone is more expensive anyway.
Anyway, we're getting distracted here. Back to my original point. Let's hope they add PSVR2 support for an F1 game at some point in the future. Whether it be options, game modes or support for hardware/accessories, it is always better to have more of those than less. I'm sure that's something we can all agree on.
ScarDuck14
Legend
11 months ago
@superhoops82 I agree it’s amazing thing. But just trying to explain why it’s doubtful it’ll be added. Others have explained better. End of the day if EA saw profit in adding it. It will be added. If not it won’t.
Meteore
11 months ago
It doesn’t have to be just about profit. You have an official F1 license to make a game of the highest levels. You have to do it with the most advanced elements like F1 is in reality. PlayStation is increasingly an important market in racing simulation. Let's think about GT7 and F1 and the best proof is Fanatec with now several PS compatible products. There are even 2 bundles exclusively for GT7. They have just launched an F1 - PS bundle. I believe that the arrival of EA changed the philosophy of Codemasters, profitability above all, developing for as many platforms as possible for greater profit. I think they are on the wrong track!! Looking at the comments about F1 pre-orders, 95% of users are not going ahead with F1 24 because there is nothing new! It doesn't matter if you do VR, PSVR2 would have been a shockwave that would have shaken things up. Too bad if PSVR2 is not supported with F1 24, after purchasing all the F1, I did not join 23 and as long as there is no VR for PS I will not go back ! I do not encourage mediocrity.
superhoops82
11 months ago
@Meteore yeah, that's my feeling. I'm sure there is profit from adding PSVR2 support. I don't know the cost for adding in PSVR2 support, but seeing as it's already supported on PC, I'd have thought it would be cheaper than starting from scratch.
I was looking into when Codemasters brought out Dirt Rally VR. Original PSVR had sold about 800,000 headsets at that point, which is below the number of sold PSVR2 headsets currently. So it's not like we're below a certain number of headset sales that could trigger developer support for PSVR2, unless it's different for this latest headset.
I also read that F123 sales were 47% lower than F122 at launch, so the series could do with a kick, which something like PSVR2 support could bring. Are the current sales figures for F123 out there? I tried looking, but only saw something about them hitting the 200,000 mark. There are 1.2 Million PSVR2 owners out there apparently for comparison.
ScarDuck14
Legend
11 months ago
@MeteoreIt’s absolutely about profit… Don’t know if you’ve seen but gaming industry is making huge lay offs especially AAA studios. Not to mention a load of big upcoming AAA games have been cancelled. If publishers don’t think games will meet their margins they are cancelled.

FPS + Mandalorian + Respawn =. Banger…. Just got cancelled.

Minimal viable content for AAA prices is what AAA games are now
Ended up getting in the same conversation last year and just went round and round. Did they add it last year? Nope. Will they add it this year? Maybe… but personally I doubt it. I’ll try not to reply on this thread any longer
Meteore
11 months ago
@ScarDuck14 For my part the file is closed !!
SteveJackson
Retired Hero
11 months ago
@Meteore @superhoops82 "If you build it....they will come" isn't a strategy that even VC would readily embrace at this juncture.

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