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- Hempyjr4 years agoSeasoned Ace
To be honest, it's not that annoying that they "missed" to announce that crossplay won't be available at release, it can happen to anyone. The most annoying thing is the lack of communication, intended or not, with F1 community in this case. Just thinking that EA, such a big company and they choose this way, not to communicate with us to give some ETA or something about when certain problems will be solved (in this case crossplay on PC, it's already one week since we've heard something) it's just incredible, i can not believe it, that's the most annoying thing...
- @Hempyjr They didn't miss anything. It was announced that this was delayed all the way back at the start of May as the team they'd partnered with to deliver crossplay were based in Ukraine. Is it that hard to do your research before commenting...
https://racinggames.gg/f1/crossplay-confirmed-as-post-launch-feature-for-f1-22/
This article is from April and was leaked even before the interview in May - https://www.xfire.com/f1-2022-small-internal-delay-supercars-cut/ - Hempyjr4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@TheOGReeceTTVThat's the only thing you got from my comment? That i didn't do some lame research about a thing that i already said it doesn't botter me and that it's irelevant? Last time i checked i don't lose my time researching irelevant things to me. Move on mate. My comment was about the lack of communication from the big company EA after launch, maybe you have something to say about this thing too? Becase that's the real problem here. Do i have to make my research about that too? This is the last time i waste my time explaining to somebody what my comment was actually about when they can't see it by itself
@TheOGReeceTTV wrote:
@HempyjrThey didn't miss anything. It was announced that this was delayed all the way back at the start of May as the team they'd partnered with to deliver crossplay were based in Ukraine. Is it that hard to do your research before commenting...
https://racinggames.gg/f1/crossplay-confirmed-as-post-launch-feature-for-f1-22/
This article is from April and was leaked even before the interview in May - https://www.xfire.com/f1-2022-small-internal-delay-supercars-cut/To be fair, whilst nobody should have expected crossplay between PlayStation, XBOX and PC at launch, I don't think there was any warning at all that PC players on Steam and Origin wouldn't have been able to race each other?
- @Ultrasonic_77 Well they only spoke of cross gen multiplayer between the different generation of consoles. This lead me to believe that pc players would only be able to play together regardless of platform when crossplay releases.
I guess not everybody read into it that way! - mariohomoh4 years agoHero (Retired)@TheOGReeceTTV Not everybody, indeed.
Usually crossplay refers to players with different hardware (i.e. consoles and PC) being able to share features together. PC is a platform in that sense, same hardware and OS family. Steam and Origin and Epic are storefronts, not platforms in that sense. - Aeghnor4 years agoNew Scout@mariohomoh And that is the main problem here. Codemasters/EA trying to shoehorn cross-play definition into cross-storefront (new word?) play. No idea why that is the case but it most certainly shouldn't be one as it's just anti-costumer.
So we had lack of communication and lack of common sense displayed here, without any clear explanation or reasoning for current situation.
@TheOGReeceTTV wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Well they only spoke of cross gen multiplayer between the different generation of consoles. This lead me to believe that pc players would only be able to play together regardless of platform when crossplay releases.
I guess not everybody read into it that way!I think you're probably in a vary small minority with that interpretation to be honest. The reason being the cross-gen element is just things staying exactly the same as F1 2021, where all PC players can also play together in 21 but not 22. Ultimately the number of people posting in this thread and others highlights that this certainly wasn't expected pre-launch. By contrast I don't recall anyone posting to say they were surprised cross-platform play wasn't in the game at launch.
- mariohomoh4 years agoHero (Retired)
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:By contrast I don't recall anyone posting to say they were surprised cross-platform play wasn't in the game at launch.
Great observation. The lack of crossplay at launch was reasonably well communicated and I do remember a handful of reviews picking it up. This forest fire still happening just goes to show how detached from the industry this interpretation is – that interoperability between glorified storefronts fits in the "crossplay" definition.
"In video games with online gaming functionality, also called cross-compatible play, cross-platform play, crossplay, or cross-play describes the ability of players using different video game hardware to play with each other simultaneously"
- Retentivee4 years agoSeasoned Novice
After installing the last patch (1.05) on both Steam and Origin I noticed that the version of the game is the same (1.05.899639), but before the update the versions were different. Any chance of playing together?
An EA employee I had on the phone yesterday told me that the next patch will make crossplay possible. Guessing that's not 1.05 then? Just read the patch notes and there's nothing in there about Steam and Origin. Hope it was not another lie :/
Also, I found someone from EA literally saying "It's not cross-play since it's both on PC :-)"
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Can-Origin-and-Steam-Crossplay/td-p/9207145#M20242 (comment 3)
So they literally don't even know what cross-play is themselves? Some EA employees say it is, others say it isn't...
"crossplay" between steam and origin is possible via LAN game. tested with hamachi
We read in several news articles, that Origin/Steam won't be able to play together even after crossplay is released.
Can you let us know if that is true? It's hard enough to plan a season without knowing when crossplay will be released, but now we aren't even sure anymore if it will even work across Steam/Origin?
Hope the information in the news articles was wrong, but I'd like to be sure about it.
Here is a german news article about it:
https://www.tz.de/leben/games/playstation-f1-22-ist-crossplay-zwischen-xbox-und-ps-moeglich-zr-91651178.htmlIt basically states that crossplay will only work for PS/Xbox and not for the 2 PC "plattforms".
Hope to get some feedback on this.
- ajobling19834 years agoRising Ace
@MisterJohnny420 wrote:We read in several news articles, that Origin/Steam won't be able to play together even after crossplay is released.
Can you let us know if that is true? It's hard enough to plan a season without knowing when crossplay will be released, but now we aren't even sure anymore if it will even work across Steam/Origin?
Hope the information in the news articles was wrong, but I'd like to be sure about it.
Here is a german news article about it:
https://www.tz.de/leben/games/playstation-f1-22-ist-crossplay-zwischen-xbox-und-ps-moeglich-zr-91651178.htmlIt basically states that crossplay will only work for PS/Xbox and not for the 2 PC "plattforms".
Hope to get some feedback on this.
Well that would be an absolute shocker if true. Can’t imagine there are many people on origin compared to steam…
but its not an official channel so wouldnt read to much into it for now.
when i race online there is now a steam logo which wasnt there previously, suggesting something might be happening.
- @ajobling1983 I didn't think the first article I saw was true, but now this is the second article stating this (sadly without any source).
I'd love not to guess anything, but sadly we're still lacking any information on what exactly is planned regarding crossplay.
Organizing a league currently really is a pain in the.. butt 🙂 - ajobling19834 years agoRising Ace@MisterJohnny420 I dont play any other EA games, but understand players between origin and steam can play FIFA together. Surely it will be possible here.
- @ajobling1983 Everything else wouldn't make any sense to me, but I also didn't expect the necessity of a crossplay feature for Steam/Origin :b
Just hope I finally get any information here, missing the CM Forum times. The problem is, for EA ist playing between steam and Origin not crossplay. Crossplay is only between like xbox-PC or PS and PC but NOT Steam and Origin.
Its very save, that players will never play together at Origin and steam.
That is what you believe, not know. So it is anything but certain.
And just because an employee says EA+Origin isn't crossplay, doesn't mean the developer or publisher sees it that way. Support staff quite often tell nonsense that later turns out to be untrue.
So until an official announcement is made, it's all speculation, and that doesn't help anyone. And assertions of any alleged "certain facts" helps even more nobody. Just wait and see...
I bet 5 Pitcoins that Origin-Steam 'crossplay' will come when proper crossplay comes...
It seems very hard to see how it would work otherwise, in that if PlayStation and XBOX players can have a PC player join them in a lobby what would happen? If a Steam player joins first could only other Steam players join but not Origin? And vice versa? Also, my bet is that a reason possible splitting of the PC league community wasn't seen as a concern during game development was because they expected their crossplay solution to make it a non-issue.
All just my speculation of course.
I've had three EA employees on the phone so far.
Person 1 told me last week that it'd be possible for Steam and Origin to play together within a few days.
Person 2 told me that Steam and Origin can already play together since it's both on the same platform (PC).
Person 3 told me that the next patch will enable cross-play.
Person 1 and person 2 turned out to be liars. So I don't have very high hopes of what person 3 told me...
- mariohomoh4 years agoHero (Retired)@SgtChris_P_Bacon Crossplay has long been incorporated by the jargon of the industry. Media and players alike refer to crossplay as a feature enabling people with different hardware to play together. Hardware here being the other long established concept of platform: every console, PC (as in Windows computer), Mac, Android and iOS.
EA pulled the rug from under the consumers collective feet here. Origin and Steam (and Epic) are glorified storefronts. The platform of their games is only one, PC. It's all the same game, the same code.
No one's denying the need to work on validating software licenses acquired through different vendors, plus the necessary interoperability between the underlying services these store launches run like anti-cheat etc. But they are all on only one platform, PC.
As thus, it is ridiculous to just come out and say "oh you didn't know Steam and Origin would not be able to play together? You silly! Didn't we say that crossplay was delayed?"
EA should be have disclosed this beforehand, way before pre-orders started. They're going against the grain of the whole industry.
@Jaspervdw95 wrote:I've had three EA employees on the phone so far.
Person 1 told me last week that it'd be possible for Steam and Origin to play together within a few days.
Person 2 told me that Steam and Origin can already play together since it's both on the same platform (PC).
Person 3 told me that the next patch will enable cross-play.
Person 1 and person 2 turned out to be liars. So I don't have very high hopes of what person 3 told me...
My guess is Person 3 isn't right either but given you have zero confidence either way I'd stop asking if I were you. If there is solid news I bet we'll see it here, or possibly on the official Twitter feed. It would make no sense to just give it to some EA helpdesk staff to tell people if they ask. Also bear in mind that an EA helpdesk will cover all games. It's not like calling the relevant Codemasters team.
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