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@Naala @Sky2k5 do you reckon it would work if bioware just changed whatever they thought was best in ME then turned off all social media for one week after launching the game? pretend all criticism doesnt exist and return fresh a week later to patch bugs?
Unfortunately EA wil alwaysl listen to Twitter feminism activist instead of us, real fans and players. They're too scared of backlash from Twitter.
Bioware said “I do think a lot of things have evolved since [the original games],” meaning rise of feminism, MeToo and scandals in Hollywood
EA, do you will still continue ignoring real fans and YouTube?
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- 5 years ago@instasamka95 Omg I've been wanting to do this for ages, mention the youtube videos. Also they need to understand that there are hundreds if not thousands of people commenting per video saying how upset they are about censorship and say they will not be buying the game etc. This needs to be taken seriously EA/Bioware!!! Also it makes people lose faith in the next ME if its being created with this kind of mind set.
- 5 years ago
Unless EA will stop acting "sexy female characters are bad and sexist", i will never buy anything from your company.
Sadly you value their opinion more than fan's:
Twitter
Kotaku
Polygon
ResetEra
Anita Sarkeesian
Zoey Quinn
- 5 years ago
@Princess_Catra congrats this is so far the hottest post on the ME LE forum, lets hope this gets some attention from EA/Bioware.
- 5 years ago
Edit: Again: Can someone explain? The original title was "Are the rumors actually true about Miranda?" and then the new title i see in my email notifications is "EA censored Mass Effect and ignores real players..." Did it get changed and just hasnt updated everywhere yet?
Also i know the first four but who the heck are anita and zoey? are they games journalists or celebrities?
- 5 years ago
Anita Sarkeesian is a feminist activist. She is know for series of videos "Tropes vs Women" where she criticizes designs of female characters like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider: Underworld for being "sexy"
In 2019 she visited Bioware to teach them how to make "right" female characters...
She also doesn't play videogames at all. - 5 years ago@nissan180sx95 lol well. My views on feminism are not appropriate for a mass effect forum so I'll leave it there xD
- 5 years ago
Her video has 50,000 dislikes, and still, EA values her more than us
- mcsupersport5 years agoHero+
@GrimReaperTaken wrote:
Edit: Again: Can someone explain? The original title was "Are the rumors actually true about Miranda?" and then the new title i see in my email notifications is "EA censored Mass Effect and ignores real players..." Did it get changed and just hasnt updated everywhere yet?
Also i know the first four but who the heck are anita and zoey? are they games journalists or celebrities?
It is likely that a thread or post was merged into this thread and the forum is acting wonky. If you look at the top of this thread after clicking on last post to get here, then likely it will say EA censored, but if you go to the first page and look, it says Are the Rumors actually......
So I think the forum is just being wonky about this.
- 5 years ago@nissan180sx95 She visited them? Oh god game over...
- 5 years ago
@Sky2k5Yes she did. ☹️ https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/956644302301552641
And seems like Bioware aren't happy with her visit: https://youtu.be/6NHGLQkxBcg
Lol comments:
"Professional liar and political hack."
"Why does anyone allow this chick anywhere???"
"It's shocking that woman is still relevant"
"Last I checked everyone hates Anita sarkeesian"
"Anita "I never played video games until it profited me" Sarkeesian.""I will never support anything that brings on Sarkesian on principle."
- 5 years ago@nissan180sx95 LOL!!! that's great news they have antibodies
@instasamka95 hell yeah! and don't forget liara 😉 - 5 years ago
@instasamka95 wrote:Unfortunately EA wil alwaysl listen to Twitter feminism activist instead of us, real fans and players. They're too scared of backlash from Twitter.
Bioware said “I do think a lot of things have evolved since [the original games],” meaning rise of feminism, MeToo and scandals in Hollywood
Twatter made it to easy for non fans to whine and complain about things they have no idea about i rly wish it would be shut down
To me this video was the most interesting video its long and in depth about Miranda as a character the lore and sexism in general it also shows the lenght they went to make her "sexy" things most people wouldn't think about it has low view count but it deserves a lot more in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDlpEpk5b9c - TTZ_Dipsy5 years agoHero+
I'm sure there are plenty of other sites/places that will cater to your needs if pixel booty is *that* important 😛
- 5 years ago
I thought this was a remaster not a "woke"make??
I can totally understand optimizing the direction of the action, camera's maybe even improving the flow of some dialog.... (e.g The lengthy pause and twisted neck of Shep in ME3 prior to the final battle where he greets Hacket)
But to fundamentally AVOID the physical attributes of key characters.... IMO you've lost the intent (and the fans to a degree)
Shall we also amend Grunt as an exemplar for the pinnacle of physical Krogan development? "All Krogan's are created equally!!! and there should be no place for perfection!"..... Maybe give him a limp or something?? (I dunno what is considered unattractive for Krogan….)
Even though that was a key part of his character arc....Just like Miranda.... "Created" for a purpose but rising beyond that.
The characters wear their scars in different ways - some are tattoos,, some are cultural, some are emotional, some are the antithesis of the perception of what a "scar" is…. Like physical perfection....
Miranda's character is both self aware of her sex appeal / how she wields it as a weapon - whilst also thinking these are the upper limits of her character and she'll amount to nothing more than the vision of her creator who she despises. A perfect, gilded cage. I like the complexity of that narrative and its one of the things that gives that character depth.
- 5 years ago@TTZ_Dipsy you are completely missing the point its not about the booty its about the censorship its a remaster not a remake so it should stayed as close to original as possible witouth near 0 alterations.
- SofaJockeyUK5 years agoHero+
@Sky2k5 wrote:
@Princess_Catra congrats this is so far the hottest post on the ME LE forum, lets hope this gets some attention from EA/Bioware.
I'm not convinced this bout of internet clickbait requires any attention from EA/BioWare other than to stick to their artistic vision. 😉
- 5 years ago@SofaJockeyUK "I'm not convinced this bout of internet clickbait requires any attention from EA/BioWare other than to stick to their artistic vision."
Yeah Stick to Casey hudsons, Derek Watts and the other on the original teams artistic vision i couldn't agree more with you! - 5 years ago@SofaJockeyUK I ( and not I alone ) disagree, this is not clickbait, and I think it does require attention from EA/BioWare as it is obviously a hot topic. We obviously have a difference of opinion but I think that all sides of the argument should be reviewed and considered at least.
- budzai5 years agoSeasoned Ace@SofaJockeyUK
So censoring = Artistic vision.
Actually I am not even surprised by this now... which is sad. - 5 years ago
@budzaiit was not only him it was signed off by at least 3 people that i know of might been more. they should rewrite the ME3 ending that's for sure since 5 ex Bioware devs came out saying its basically junk "https://www.thegamer.com/mass-effect-3-ending-controversy-dev-opinions/"
but ME2 cant really be rewritten since one voice actor is dead Robin Sachs as Zaeed Massani (RIP) so if they rewrite the story they would need to re write a lot of dialogue and hire a new voice actor which i would really not like since Zaeed is my favorite companion as soon as i get Zaeed and Kasumi i never swap xD - 5 years ago@Sky2k5 it sure is a hot toping sadly mostly on youtube not so much here where devs might actually be lurking.
All they would need to do is make a Toggle switch in menu "do you want new scenes" check or leave for original. give us the players and fans the option and let us decide of original "Artistic vision" was better - budzai5 years agoSeasoned Ace@Naala Really? I remember someone from BW sad he (Casey) had closed himself in the room and just had done it. And didn't let anyone to try to criticize it.
And the problems of ME3 wasn't just the ending. It had some good thing Salarians vs Krogen. Truians vs Krogen. Asari's hiding the tecnology etc, but the main mission was chasing a deus ex machina (which came out of nowhere).
And this problem comes from ME2. Because there we were fighting against the collectors, a new enemy and we didn't do nearly anything against the Reapers.
Not to mention they destroyed the Reapers identity. They were lovecraftian monsters (in ME1) but in ME2 "ah, yes Reapers" "That was just a big geth warship" Yeah... Sure turian dude... and you guys have an iq of 80 or less? I think BW chickened out...
And both episode had stupid ground fight against a reaper... Jesus...
Plus there is Liara... a timid archaeologist becomes the shadow broker a few years later. Yeah... Just BW pet things, like with Morrigan in Dragon age. A sociopath, antisocial, sassy witch becomes a chief adviser to an empress... yeah very likely. - 5 years ago
@budzaiHuh seems i totally missed the boat on that one here i thought i heard it all but seems i got slightly more digging to do very interesting!
oh yes i am fully aware of all those things plus all the other plot holes and "decisions matter EXCEPT those we choose to ignore in third game" like the rachni it was supposed to be a super big decision kill or let go but nope didnt * matter at all
Liara becoming the shadow broker and morrigan adviser to the empress i see both possible to happen there been many people who gone from the gutter to be politician or something else in high regard so this isnt impossible does it fit their character? NOPE!! but people can change both Liara and Morrigan was surrounded by very influential people for years that can affect them, did i like it? in Liaras case yes... in Morrigans its 50/50 i loved it coz i got my favourite char from Dragon age around me once again but what they did to her felt like she became a chicken in comparision to her earlier days.
The way i see the mass effect trilogy is like this ME1: investigate. ME2 Survive. ME3 80% Politics and 20% retaliation, retaliation might not best word of choice but i think u get my picture.
Main issue with ME3's ending or well ME3 in general is that it disregarded most of the choices in previous games at least thats how it felt to me also it was supposed to be the definitive end to the trilogy nothing more after that.. until they puked up Andromeda so going back to it now seems like a big WTF to me best would be to set it long long into the future at the end of Liaras life where everyone else is dead basically but then why bother going back? ugh so much of this shi't that dont make sense.
Like the entire legendary edition dont make sense.....
First thing i would do if i was in charge of it would be fire who ever it is that is so "Exited" about lens flares taking up half the screen The more i look at the comparisons the more disgusted by them i get :S i guess he / she never heard about "Less is more"
This screen made my day taken from Mass Effect Legendary Editions home page mhm totally accurate right?
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