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Re: GAME OVER


@Abex81 wrote:

@EgoMania wrote:

@VitesseLumiere

Well if you look at ME1-3, I think it's a fair statement that ME:A offers more content on release especially. Maybe ME1 is a close call but my playthroughs on ME2 and ME3 are definitely shorter than in ME:A.

I think they just wanted to add something more because that's what people are asking but didn't have the time or resources to commit to doing something better. That's just my guess. So is it filler or are they side quests? People will have different opinions on that. I've found that some of these quests actually give some more background that makes it certainly more than just filler, like finding out that only so many people can live on Aya and because of the Milky Way presence some Angara had to leave. That certainly made it more than just filler.

And sure some of the quests are very standard fare, but is it really that bad I wonder?


I don't know what kind of people asked for filler content,  i must have missed something. The OT was universally acclameid both by critics and fans and sold very well across all platforms.

And fetch quest were almost non-existent, very few and short and nobody asked for more.

Also 100 hours of Andromeda bloatware cant compare to any game of the trilogy due to replay value. In the OT choices really matter, you could have dead squadmates, paragon and renegade choices changed the story.

After one PT in Andromeda i'm already tired, while i did at least 4-5 playtrough per each game of the trilogy.

Also seeeing how bad it has been received, maybe next time they should stick to their roots of mature story telling and stop pandering to everyone that raises the voice a little.

To answer your question, yes it is that bad in my opinion.

I stopped playing 2 weeks ago, and i am now playing Horizon and Nier and no sidequest is boring as Andromeda's. I took off my nostalgia tinted glasses and now i see the game for what it is. A mediocre game.

I still think it can be saved, though, it has potential. I'm sticking around to see if they can get their s**t together with a more linear, more story centered dlc. Not holding my breath though.


Now now, I didn't say people were asking for filler content, just saying that from their point of view they were throwing certain players a bone with these extra quests. Keep em busy you know. Nothing more than that.

Personally I am already on my 5th playthrough and I don't have the same experience. By the looks from your comments though you are a PS4 player. As a PC player who has played various MMOs I think I can safely state that there lies a big reason for having a different opinion on this. I would suspect that I wouldn't like how ME:A was done if I played on a console. 

To be honest, I do enjoy the open world aspect when it comes to exploring and doing the vaults, but I really do prefer the mission approach that we had in previous installments, also for the companion missions. I think that in that sense there is a big difference between missions and quests and ME:A is more quest oriented and the previous ME games more mission oriented. I do prefer the old style approach more. It's probably also a reason why I feel less engaged with the story and characters but was able to do many playthroughs.

I do suspect though that within a month or so, I'll be done with ME:A for a while. Then it'll be waiting on dlc or playing other games again. All in all I enjoy quite a bit in ME:A but I cannot even remotely contend that I feel as connected to the story and characters as I did to the original trilogy. So I enjoy ME:A for what it is, but I do not feel drawn into it as I did before. That's for sure.

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  • @PandaTar@VladVonCastein

    I loved Witcher 3.  Not a perfect game, but darn close. If you get a chance to read the books, do so.  W3 main quest line is pretty much as a continuation (from the game writers minds) of the last book.  Worth reading and a new playthrough.  The Hearts of Stone DLC is good but even a bit darker than the main game.  I LOVED Toussaint! What a fun and lively place compared to the other war torn regions.

    As for filler content, that is one of the things that amazed me about W3.  So much "filler content" had real little storylines of their own.  I would go to a ? on the map expecting something to kill and loot and find myself in a mini-story with its own appeal -- like having to decide whether to kill the last creature in its species.  The dive quests in Skellige were more routine, but it broke up travel if you were not always fast travelling and they were a good source of cash to keep my reserves up.  The Sirens were a bit frustrating at first until I learned I could use my crossbow while at the helm.  Otherwise, I do not think W3 had much "filler" -- not like Skyrim's "go here and kill something" and other game quests.  I really think W3 set a new standard. More story, less filler.

    As for MEA, I have said it elsewhere.  One point I will repeat is to address folks who do not seem to understand the importance of MP for some of us.  I bought ME3 for the campaign. I did not play Coop for months.  However, when I did, it was a lot of fun.  AND, I made a ton of friends -- some I still play online games with, 5 years later.  I gave up online gaming in 2001 (EQ addict), and ME3 Coop brought me back.  Why would I not have high expectations for MEA Coop?

    I did not decide to walk away because I am pised at BioWare (saddened is more accurate).  I walk away because most of my long-term friends, who I met in ME3 Coop, are giving up on it too.

    So, I am replaying ME2, and I have to say I am blown away all over again. Martin Sheen as the Illusive Man, Jacob, Yvonne Strahovski as Miranda, Seth Green as Joker, and, my favorite foul-mouthed heartthrob, Jack.  It's just so much more compelling to me, corridor shooter and all. 

    As for AD&D, I was blowing my college weekends with a bunch of other losers waaaay back in 1980. Still love my Wizard, Gray Mouser. ;-)   I often wished someone would come up with a game engine and Ui that would let DMs create a dungeon or land and populate it with treasure and monsters.  Then make it so you invite friends to play.  It would still be turn-based with rolls, and the DM runs the story and game -- the graphics and UI just augment what the DM is presenting.  Perhaps too random, but I like the idea.

  • @angrybunnie

    Just completed Heart of Stone and now playing Wine and Blood.  So far the Heart of Stone is my favourite, it's so dark and the character Gaunter O'Dimm is awesome!!  The Witcher3 is certainly one of the best games I have played.  The issue I had with the game is the story telling aspect, it is adapted from the novel but I am sure many like me did not read the books.  So the entire series seemed a little disconnect, Played witcher 1 many many years back so I cant remember much of it, witcher 2 I was totally lost, so much politics, different characters, I felt disconnected.  Witcher 3 all of a sudden Yennifer was introduced(think she rivals and perhaps exceeds Miranda in beauty and sophistication) which well, I didnt know anything about her so once again a disconnect, guess it fits the whole amnesia theme.  In ME there's less issues with this, the only time I guess is when Anderson spoke about Grayson, I was confused and had to google him, then found out that he's a character in a book.

    LOL AD&D ahhhh the good old days...  I started playing Paladin...  think the last character I rolled was a neutral evil gnome mage illusionist, my dungeon master allowed a lot so I got really creative with my illusions.  Was in my late 20s when I last played AD&D guess had to grow up and focus on work.

  • angrybunnie's avatar
    angrybunnie
    9 years ago

    @VladVonCastein, Yennifer is mentioned in the other games as Geralt's "lost love."  It was just not from the books.  As an aside, Regis is very much from the books. He found Ciri just after she got the wound on her face and nursed he back to health.  Not essential for the game, but a nice bit of origin as to why Geralt trusts him.  If you can, read the books and do another playthrough.  I loved the storytelling in the game on my first playthrough, and the books really enhanced it on the subsequent runs.  I have to admit, the "The Last Wish" quest had me sobbing like a sentimental fool, especially after understanding the context from the books.  I am a sucker for good stories, having started out on text-based Infocom "interactive fiction" games like Enchanter and Planetfall in the early 1908s.  I love games that tell a good story with emotion, and Witcher 3, and Me2, are top shelf in my book.  

  • MEGAF1UX's avatar
    MEGAF1UX
    9 years ago

    how did THIS of all posts end up going on for 9 fecking pages?!

    im a cdpr fan (still) but honestly w3.. as well written and beautiful of a game as it is, was painful and tedious to play because the combat never really changed. you were doing the same exact moves and patterns 50 minutes into the game as you were 50 hours into the game. i hope one day they grow past that. looking forward to playing anthem.. but not paying for it. going to have to recoup the cost of this game one way or the other.

  • EgoMania's avatar
    EgoMania
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago

    @MEGAF1UX wrote:

    how did THIS of all posts end up going on for 9 fecking pages?! 


    Well probably because it got derailed from page 1 already lol. It just turned more into a "what other options are there outside of Bioware" I guess.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    That is the point really.

    We play in a very small niche market.  Rpg style Exploration, with some Action thrown in.

    Can name all the decent games on fingers of one hand.

    I guess, if you're upset about how ME:A went, you could just refuse to buy EA/Bioware games..

    But even the numbers of us that bought ME:1-4 would make a very small dent in the overall numbers who buy EA games.. so loosing us, not a biggy for EA.

    All you'd be doing is eating your own foot to spite your noseless face.

  • EgoMania's avatar
    EgoMania
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago

    @rugster wrote:

    That is the point really.

    We play in a very small niche market.  Rpg style Exploration, with some Action thrown in.

    Can name all the decent games on fingers of one hand.

    I guess, if you're upset about how ME:A went, you could just refuse to buy EA/Bioware games..

    But even the numbers of us that bought ME:1-4 would make a very small dent in the overall numbers who buy EA games.. so loosing us, not a biggy for EA.

    All you'd be doing is eating your own foot to spite your noseless face.


    Yeah, you're right on the money there. Very few games that compare come out from other game producers.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    9 years ago

    Maybe the best way is to show continued support by using these forums, by sending "nice" messages over twitter.. or emailing bioware directly.  ie Supporting them.. rather than just cutting and running and throwing blame over thy shoulder..

    The latter never works.

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