Starting to despise Remnant because............

Kett, ok Kett are annoying as are the Bandits. But at least they walk, and you can predict movement. They don't suddenly decide to ignore collision detection and float through walls. They dont explode on contact, nor do they have suicide units. They do have teleporting Fiends, but thats another issue entirely.

Bandits have Pariah and saboteurs which are annoying but in fact easily manageable. Hydra's are tough, but again pretty easy to manage with some teamwork. Berserkers just require some effort, and a bit of skill.

But Remnant just wind me up big time. I cannot stand the things now. Just way to much * with them. Observers clipping clean through walls, bobbing up and down when moving, and they have wonky hit boxes where a clean shot misses, because.......reasons?

Assemblers that sit in cover hiding, doing nothing then shooting from across a map with pin-point accuracy. Or when you get close, chucking a breacher behind you to go with the other mobs of them that spawned already causing melee stun locking or constant grab attacks.

Or the new bug of Nullifiers clipping inside one another and doing back to back cover or multiple melee strikes when you try to close on them. Or the stupidity of its ranged attack coming through a solid wall, in another room from a target I cannot even see. Sure it goes through cover to knock me out no problem with that, but it should absolutely never go through a wall, ITS A FRIKIN WALL.

And Destroyers are just plain broken, because they are way to easy to kill. Its stats are the wrong way around. Its shields are immense but its armor sucks. It should have * shields like everything else in the game (player character included), and its armor level boosted to compensate. Right now the only hard part is getting the shields down, once that's done its an easy kill.

But the breachers are just plain BS. Packs of them spawning, flying around out of view then attacking out of the blue with suicide explosions, or mutliple grab attacks, or melee stun locking, evade blocking. And on top of that the assemblers just luuuurve to make more of them. And they have way to much HP and armor, making them nothing more than griefing units.

Anyone else agree or is it just me?

29 Replies

TheVadgeBadge
8 years ago
Agree with you on the Observers and their hit boxes. With sniper rifle I'll have it lined up without moving and it's not uncommon for it to register as nothing.
The Breachers I don't mind too much, sure they can spawn a ton and behind you and surprise you but not too bad overall. I've noticed only lately how they have the ability to detonate from below you instead of just at the same level as you.
Destroyers are not too bad if you have decent cover and have them more isolated. Their shields are quite high, so I can see how the armor is lower as their creators built them to withstand attacks via shields and have worse armor. Not a total walking death tank with ridiculously high shields and high armor.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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I haven't had the issue with observers much, but I do agree with that. I just use overload, lance, throw, or concussive shots. That usually stabilizes them long enough and shuts their * lasers. The breachers are just annoying as hell. Nullifiers are easy to take down. You just have to be fully behind a wall or keep moving (treat it like a banshee ball). If you're in the open and fighting a nullifier, just keep moving around. Get in close, make it pull it's shields down, then back up.
jpkarlsen
Hero (Retired)
8 years ago
Nullifiers are easy just use hover attack with a sniper or if you are close enough X-5 with an electrical beam upgrade.
As for a swarm of breachers Nova takes them down quickly.
EgoMania
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
I generally find the AI of the game a bit...odd. How mobs move can be really bizarre, but yes, I've also noticed some odd things with Remnant.
At the same time I do easily win still, so it's not really a concern for me I guess.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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Well first off if you do no like any of the enemies maybe you are playing the wrong game. I hear The Sims is nice if you don't like combat. Overall I think you got most of it backwards.
Observer clipping and general hit box adjustments aside you need their beam port to be open for a critical hit. Free-floating mobs tend to bob if they are not on a "track" and it is better that way. Observers are my favorite Remnant enemy in multiplayer. They push you in and out of cover. They snipe lanes and rush corners. They are not static combatants and are resistant to crowd control. A well rounded enemy for interesting fighting.
Assemblers sit back and are accurate because they lack rate of fire as well as producing their own unit for pressing and flanking you to give them cover superiority. Clearly the Assemblers form, function and weak point dictate that it is meant for entrenchment at mid to long range.
Breachers are the "attack dog unit". Locking you down and harassing you then turning aggressive and even sacrificing themselves is their job. Each faction has them and they further prevent you from just camping with impunity. If you read or watched anything on this game before release the developers wanted fluid and highly mobile combat. I hear duck hunts nice if you want to camp.
Nullifiers are basically artillery and snipers rolled into one. You think shooting through a is wall stupid? Projectiles with sufficient velocity and force in real life can do why not in a game. "But its made of energy" I hear you say. My reply is that you need more sci-fi in you're life. Some basic Star-Trek or Stargate will inform you on concepts such as phasing and molecular disruption. Mass Effect is a sci-fi game you know. The same goes for its tracking scanner. We have tech that allows for tracking through walls. Thermal, sound, heartbeats there all kinds. So an advanced tech race would have the ability too and much more refined. As for the shield stack, I find it to be an interesting obstacle to overcome. An enemy phalanx requires some on the fly tactics especially if your class is not quite equipped for it forcing you to improvise. As for them melee'ing you . . . duh? Hand to hand is fundamental when you close the gap. Its why soldiers still carry knives. If you pick a fight with two guys they are both going to punch.
Destroyers are walking power cores so high shield generation over light armor is obvious and logical. The massive amount of fire power with incredible rate of fire is why it has a crippling weak point. There has to be a reasonable trade off. The exposed core is only open intermittently and the armor is fair when closed or attacked peripherally. You also generally have to peel the layers before you get to the easy, cobras aside. Disarm, drop shields and wait for opening. What you see as flaws is actually variables. Are you a melee class? Are you leaned more towards anti armor with weak anti shield? Should you spend that cobra now or save it? If I run will the shields regenerate before I can re-engage? etc.
As for your take on the breachers I refer you back to the "attack dog class". As for them attacking out of the blue I would say that is more a lack of situational awareness. You need work on your battlefield senses.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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Door is that away>
Not interested in troll attempts to belittle my gameplay. I score 40k+ on DGLFT missions, and I have seen/read more sci-fi than you have had hot dinners. Your entire post is worthless.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@lexandro_Albion wrote:
Door is that away>
Not interested in troll attempts to belittle my gameplay. I score 40k+ on DGLFT missions, and I have seen/read more sci-fi than you have had hot dinners. Your entire post is worthless.
I may have poked fun with The Sims and Duck Hunt jokes but the overall body of my posting is all truth and how I view the Remnant. Do not pose a question if you do not want replies.
"Anyone else agree or is it just me?" your words.
40k+ on a DGLFT is easy with 11 rounds. You seeing more sci-fi than me is conjecture. True or not you simply have no evidence for such a baseless claim.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@BANDIT440 wrote:
@lexandro_Albion wrote:
Door is that away>
Not interested in troll attempts to belittle my gameplay. I score 40k+ on DGLFT missions, and I have seen/read more sci-fi than you have had hot dinners. Your entire post is worthless.
I may have poked fun with The Sims and Duck Hunt jokes but the overall body of my posting is all truth and how I view the Remnant. Do not pose a question if you do not want replies.
"Anyone else agree or is it just me?" your words.
40k+ on a DGLFT is easy with 11 rounds. You seeing more sci-fi than me is conjecture. True or not you simply have no evidence for such a baseless claim.

Agree with what you say about the remnant. Yes the Observers CAN be a pain to some, but since they were adjusted recently i am now finding them easier to do deal with than before. There is a certain gap in their ability to fire now where you have ample opportunity to burn them down. If you cannot, then your weapon is not strong enough yet.
In MP i love the observers the most.. as i reflect their incoming fire either right back at them, or... i deflect it onto another remnant mob entirely.. which is great fun!
Nullifiers indeed are pushovers.. that is one of the few remnant mobs i would make more difficult to kill .. marginally If you are going guns on them.. just strafing left and right mostly while shooting the exposed bit often kills them and they hardly fire when you side strafe a lot.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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Sometimes entire mobs will ignore you, other times especially those annoying berzerkers that can take 4 clips from an assault rifle, and still be standing on the sliver. While their flak cannon does that annoying stun, and if you are ever faced with two, it's over.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@BANDIT440 wrote:
@lexandro_Albion wrote:
Door is that away>
Not interested in troll attempts to belittle my gameplay. I score 40k+ on DGLFT missions, and I have seen/read more sci-fi than you have had hot dinners. Your entire post is worthless.
I may have poked fun with The Sims and Duck Hunt jokes but the overall body of my posting is all truth and how I view the Remnant. Do not pose a question if you do not want replies.
"Anyone else agree or is it just me?" your words.
40k+ on a DGLFT is easy with 11 rounds. You seeing more sci-fi than me is conjecture. True or not you simply have no evidence for such a baseless claim.
Where in the body of my post did I say they were difficult or that I required tutelage on game mechanics? Exactly nowhere. I pointed out specific AI issues the game has based on its current balance and bugs, which causes frustrating gameplay. Of course you just skimmed the post and proceeded to lecture me while also insulting my knowledge and gameplay ability.
Off handed insults, insinuations and acting in a superior attitude is not "poking fun". It's troll behavior. As you well know. The question posed (in short) was "Does anyone else find them {Remnant} as frustrating due to the bugs and wonky behavior as I do."