Who owns Mass Effect is it Bioware, EA or the people?

I agree the females are unattractive in this game too.

Unlike Tali'Zorah there is no lovable sweet character that I can be drawn to. They tried to recreate it with the Vetra but the problem is Turian's are just too extreme in looks to warrant "attractiveness" and her level of "sweetness" wasn't as good as Tali's to then make me look past this fact.

PeeBee looks insane, maybe due to the bad animations and expressions on her face but nonetheless it doesn't change this fact, her writing wasn't anything special either.

Cora was just too generic and bland for my tastes. Nothing attracted me to her.

Keri had some kind of potential but it fell short like her design was just to be someone implied that you are having an affair with or that it wouldn't really be established until a later game.

The other male Ryder options were gay and not to my tastes.

Not only do I agree with you about the characters overall, I think it's a shame that this even reached debate status.  I stumbled over this tread and felt I should read it because of how strongly it started off, but I think it's a shame that it's such a heated debate. 

Yes, pandering to any group, I disagree with.  I think the writers tell the story they want and if they change things because "this might offend", they don't deserve to tell their story. Have the courage to tell the story as it's meant and the fans will support it.  Those who are not fans will blast it regardless.

  Those people who are offended should have the strength of character to accept that not everyone will tell the story to their liking.  Accept that!  If they can't understand that, they've been catered to all their lives and will one day suffer a rude awakening.  Good luck.  Sorry it might be at the cost of us seeing another Mass Effect...

But I do not think these characters need to run around in underwear to be "attractive".  If that's what people are looking for, there's better venues than a video game for that. (This I stand by from what back when Lara Croft was still brand new and there were calendars of her - did anyone notice she was PIXELS????  I digress...)    While Cora is not my favorite, I do think she looks great.  The only race I don't find attractive is the Krogan.  (Yes, perhaps I'm a little superficial there... sorry!) 

My only gripe with the game so far is that one quest will not let me advance it in (End of Watch).  If that's the only one, I still find the game amazing and already hope there's another.  Could the game use some polish?  Sure, but in the end, it's still a high end game and one I'm happy to own!

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In your opening remarks you said that EA rushes development etc.  Right at the very end maybe.  They did need a few more months and EA said no.  Push it out the door as is.  The real problem is who EA puts in charge and EA itself.  Name one single franchise that EA has taken the rights to that has gotten better or even stayed as good.  None.  Just like Mass Effect.

The biggest thing that is being missed in this whole debate on this game are not the bugs and poor animation people keep complaining about.  Multi-player and open world are not what makes a game a Mass Effect game.  Andromeda should be called only that.  Andromeda, loosely based on the Mass Effect universe.  It's lack of story, depth and ability to draw you in and make you care about the characters is where this game fails.  I finished this game with 107 hours simply because I am a completionist and did everything that wasn't broken or 100% put there with no thought except as filler.  It's just another OK game with a lot of spammed enemy AI over and over again at per-determined locations (like games we used to get ten and twenty years ago) and it's all because of who runs EA and who they put in charge of their subsidiaries once they have done enough damage to force out the original people.

Here's another example, EA bought the rights to NFL names and the NFL Players Association.  2K sports had a football game that last year they were allowed to use official names and it was many times better than Madden.  If EA had not been awarded said rights, we would have at least one decent football game to play.  Instead we have what is essentially the same game we had eight years ago which is essentially the same game from eight years before that.  Parts of that game are still being used from the original few years.  Mediocre.

EA is at fault for the state of Mass Effect and the fact that if they do not make serious improvement, they won't make another one, and this will be just another dead franchise that could have been.  I really don't think it matters.  With a story like this, and voice acting that is worse than the acting in most porno films.  The plot lines are so obvious and the whole story is just a rehash.  It's exactly the same as the trilogy with bigger worlds and a cheap story and characters who could have been killed off one by one and the majority of people wouldn't care..

Actually i am pleased with what my eyes get when descending to each non krogan female humanoid bodies lower backside..

@dreampro4ever I kinda appreciate your effort, but you lost me a bit when writing about SJWs and all that gibberish ... Don't let your mind be succumbed by those generalizations. You can't shove people, EA and Bioware included, into categories like that, especially when there are hundreds of individuals involved in a project.

Now this game features homosexual relationships and more female cast than usual, so what? I wouldn't even have noticed without this nonsense internet culture ...

The latter fact even makes sense, given that a higher number of women guarantees a faster reproduction rate at the colonies. A certain number of males just makes for better genetic diversity, so it doesn't all end up in incest lol.

Given the size of the game, Bioware had to use automated tools and generic stuff in one or the other way to accelerate the process. If it wasn't about deadlines, we might get perfectly polished games for 1-2 years longer development in return. Investors and steadily evolving platforms make that kinda hard to achieve.

The following is some kind of "underground" fact, but should give an impression that there never was any perfectly polished open world game on release. As some players and also I have tinkered around with the Skyrim Creation Kit, it was found that there is a ton of quests and dialogue not implemented into the game. I'm specifically talking about the civil war quest line. T. Howard, co-founder and lead creator of Bethesda, teased fans with large battles in some kind of RTS fashion. The war was supposed to be a huge thing. What they ended up with was a bunch of incomplete code and a mediocre quest line substitute. Bethesda even published Skyrim themselves and really do care about community feedback, as most developers (should) do. I'd include Bioware there, too. There's something wrong with the overall thing of producing video games, especially these huge ones. I can't exactly name it, tho ... always pointing at the publishers is kinda too easy.

Witcher 3 has bugs and flaws, too, like an unmotivating skill system, balance and copy paste faces all over the place. The latter issue instantly reminds me of ME:Andromeda.

The fact, that Bethesda will probably not come up with a new Elders Scrolls until at least 2018, could be an indicator that they might be on a good trail... or it's just because they work on several projects in the meantime. Just guessing. ^^

But back to Andromeda... I don't care about the animations much. Yes, it is not good for 2017 standards but whatever, this game focuses far more on atmospheric locations, less on NPCs, which is a good thing in my eyes, because the Mass Effect universe has massive open world potential. If that's not your beer, well, then that's it. ^^

@SirBarzalot Thanks for taking the time to read my comment and provide your opinion. Although I respect what you've shared I disagree, it's not gibberish especially when it influences a great portion of the games finally product. I never once "shoved" EA, Bioware, or anyone into a category. I clearly said "Mangament" made a poor decision in deciding to solely rely on cyberscan technology to create humanoid expression... From my understanding staff members personally came up to management and requested to work on humonid faces but was turned down! For what reason will truly never find out but reviewing comments and actually comparing what was shown to us st E3... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put the pieces together. Just look at the cinematic trailer for E3 2016 and you'll notice how both Peebee and Sarah eyes and faces were more flushed out, bring the beauty of there respected models to life. Now keep in mind I could care less on esthetics or I wouldn't have played 150+ hours already and wouldn't have romanced Verta as my first choice in my first play through ( that strong female personality with them fine legs, lol! ) Story and personality will always come FIrst in my book. I shouldn't even have to share that information to give my opinion but it's like I need to defend position in order to express what is disturbing which is how they downgraded the facial implimations to appeal to SJW and not the Character or narrative development. Have you seen the male Ryder model and how the "likeliness" is spot on, so I ask why downgrade female Ryder? And you know what in the end it doesn't matter because you can customize it or does it because you're limited to options due to poor decisions. Will never know, they won't come out willingly to speak the truth. If management did come out and genuinely say it was just purely decided to save time then okay, still poor decision as it backed fired but at least there is no outside influence disturbing the creativity. No, instead information has to be leaked to the public sharing what's going behind the closed doors. People have the right to know, especially when you're paying for triple A game that is a highly beloved franchise for many which is why I asked the question who owns Mass Effect just like any other major game, art, movie or history... in the end it's always the people. The people will be the ones who keep it alive for years to come.

Now I'm not sure I understand why you brought to our attention that this game has homosexual relationships and more women, so what is exactly correct. Diversity has always been core concept since the beginning of Mass Effect 1, and is fantastic to have become as rich as it is now. I agree and is logical sound for there to be more females in this world especially if they wish to repopulate, heck there is a bit that is solely dedicated to that exact concept in game.

Your right there is no flawless game but that doesn't mean it can't come close... I really hate to compare but when you got power house games coming from both spectrums ( Horizon zero drawn and breath of the wild ) each unique in there own respect but yet similar in genre, then you understand even with flaws and bugs it still can be a masterpiece, not perfect which is the misconception, but yet a masterpiece. And you know what they all had in common... that they all started development or concept within 5-7 years.

I want to stress how much I love Mass Effect for if I didn't, I wouldn't be here! What I don't want is be here questioning what went wrong, because if I'm doing that who loves the franchises then Image how new comers feel. Remember it's the people who will end up taking ownership, the success of the franchise will be measured by our wallets and if it doesn't come out firing on all thrusters, then you better believe gamers will remember when it comes time for DLC and additional sequels.