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Misterkevv7's avatar
Misterkevv7
New Traveler
31 days ago

Something changed in the gameplay...

I've seen a few post here and on Reddit that I couldn't agree more with. 

Since the last update about a week ago something definitely changed in the gameplay.

I've seen your awnser on a thread that no tuning has been made yet but something feels way off. 

-The game seems faster than at launch. We're back to skating a straight line to burn off defender and score. Previously it wasn't required or even that possible. Passing and teamplay was a priority. 

-Passing feels off. It's like the power of the passes had been tuned down or something like that. They don't connect as well anymore. 


-There's way more puck interceptions (even when players/cpu are NOT facing the puck, like they intercept the puck from behind) 

-There's also way more pokecheck from behind. You're on a half breakaway and someone pokecheck you from behind making you loose the puck. That wasn't like that at launch. 

-There's also way more bumps and hitting. From behind as well. How can someone have enough speed skating in the same direction as you to hit you from behind and make you fall on the ice?? It's ok for bumps and hitting to be in the game, the problem now is that everytime you get touched a little bit, it's like you have only 3 in balance and your character falls on the ice and glide for 10 meters.. Hitting players doesn't seems to be slower than small and fragile players like at launch. 

-The aggressiveness, hitting and pokechecking of CPU really needs to be tuned down. In squad battle and moments, there extremely too aggressive, they intercept ALL passes, they're on you before you have the chance to do litteraly anything, they will win every puck battle, will always be first on loose puck, will pokecheck you 12 times a second and will block every shot you do.. All that combined with the things I've mentionned earlier. That wasn't like that at launch and I can assure you that it's not a skill issue. 

-Also, the menus seems to be slower for some reasons. 

So yeah, I don't know what changed, but it feels off, and playing the game right now feels very frustrating. I loved the game at launch, it actually was the best gameplay you've done in years. Not so much nowadays. 

    • EA_Aljo's avatar
      EA_Aljo
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      Yeah, that's pretty long. I'd like you to power cycle your equipment with the following steps: unplug your modem/router and console. After 2 minutes plug in the modem/router. Let them come back online completely. Then plug in your console and start it up. Let me know if that helps or not. Thanks!

  • Theleisku's avatar
    Theleisku
    Seasoned Novice

    Yes, CPU very hard win now, they block every my shot, tackling every time and very aggressive get puck back they. And i win superstar every time before yesterday patch. now I can play very seriously if I want to beat them and still I don't win they. And CPU goalies beast, he save my every shot and my goalie don't save anything because CPU learned how to score bug goals and goals, which no goalkeeper can saved.

  • The full pressure against CPU doesn't work. We are spending more energy for being in THEIR zone with full pressure on than it cost them being pressured.

    How despise all that they're still in the green energy wise and they're able to move that fast? 


    It's not the first time it happens, full pressure just doesn't punish CPU enough. 


    https://youtu.be/wy3gpNzZb1k

     

    • Misterkevv7's avatar
      Misterkevv7
      New Traveler

      Rumor has it that to this day, Mittelstadt is still falling on the ice from that one handed bump by a full pressured CPU that had to turn back and proceed to not loose any momentum to bump that hard... 

      https://youtu.be/m0Y1BKQNu4g

       

    • Misterkevv7's avatar
      Misterkevv7
      New Traveler

      Full pressured CPU proceed to easily resist a sticklift, while full pressured, and win a battle on the board, while full pressured, then make a pass to his teammate that skates 2 zones at full speed, while full pressured, and losing only 1% of his stamina, while full pressured. 

      Do you start to see how it makes no sense? It's not fun. And not because that's hard. Because that's not fair.. 

      Also CPU can snipe your goalie big time and we can't. All those videos were on all stars.. 

      https://youtu.be/p8HgBnsY-3w 

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
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    As mentioned previously, nothing has changed with gameplay speed. We are specifically avoiding doing that. I'm not guaranteeing it will never change, but it hasn't so far. As with every year, the community adjusts and adapts to the new gameplay. The speed has not been modified from launch.

    • Manster54White's avatar
      Manster54White
      New Vanguard

      Could you please ask them to do something about the length of time it takes a player to get up after a "big hit." Either the time it takes to get up should be reduced or the referee should blow the whistle the instant the  injured player's team gets the puck.

      No NHL referee would let someone lay on the ice that long without stopping play.

      It would  be REALLY nice if we could see what strategy our player is supposed to be using in BE A PRO

    • Misterkevv7's avatar
      Misterkevv7
      New Traveler

      What about the other things? How is there way more interceptions from behind without even looking at the puck? You can't even make a breakout pass if there's other guys in a 3 meter area of the guy you try to reach, even if they're NOT facing the puck and couldn't technically intercept it.. Because they would. 

      Why small bumps makes you loose the puck and fall on the ice for 5 meters as if we had 3 in balance? 

      What's up with passing in the o-zone? Something feels off. 

      The AI difficulty in Squad Battle and moments is exaggerated (too aggressive, too much hitting, it's like they're playing NFL, I don't know) and there's definitely something off with the PRO difficulty, it seems even harder that the other difficulties.. 

      And the slow menus, specifically in HUT, is there a patch that can be done?.. 

      • EA_Aljo's avatar
        EA_Aljo
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        All that's changed is what has been listed in the patch notes. Nothing else.

        Can you get a video of the slow menus? I'm not aware of other reports of that.

        I'm also not aware of any issues with the Pro difficulty. I've been playing on Superstar personally. Haven't tried Pro yet.

        I'm also not aware of issues with passing in the O zone. That's something I'd need video of. I do a lot of passing in my O zone and they seem to be working fine. What's your online pass assist set to? If you're playing offline, what do you have your passing slider at?

  • I actually see it the same way, but at least the bug is gone that the gameplay settings before and in the match were constantly reset to default! (Learning AI and AI strength put down by half)

    But also on half of the standard AI settings unfortunately I currently do not have the feeling drn guest you sank exactly as you wanted it and in it is jahuuu .. , but no the best shooters meet either ernen. Player, or the goalkeeper fishes him away, goals fall you mean by chance or distraction so my star players have almost no goals on their account but the players of rows 3 and 4, with whom the goalkeepers do not seem to be serious and absent with regular own goals incl. !

    In short, the AI plays unfairly again, felt 80-90% of all passes / shots are intercepted / blocked. Even unsustainable and additional shot are parried, then the AI runs on my goal to a 2-3 body illusion in it eat the thing and everyone can do that in league 2 ... I try this even with top players I either lose the punk or hang on an opponent / fellow player and does not come from the spot ..

    I want to be challenged by the AI yes preferably even to be defeated, what I do not want is to be cheated or to be favoured by the AI with goals that are impossible in the last game and now fall by themselves

    I play EA NHL actually are their first part on the SNES and are NHL14 now again every single series offshoot

    NHL 20 and NHL 22 (until both games were patched) were so much fun!

    Please orient yourself to it.. sometimes less complicated is better... what good is the mega racket tricks if 90% play hybrid, and this year you can do even less than before! That starts with the passing and stops at the blatant goal Dekes .. and in between lies a mege!

    Ps: NHL 21 is not even mentioned because of the then missing XBOXOneX (NHL20 had it) support and the so blatant regression to the previous year and should not be forgotten, and not to mention it anywhere to offer it as a full price game! Shame on you )

    Ps: small question why do the jerseys look just at the presentation and jersey choice even on a Series X as if they were made of a large shoe box ... or a tank! Back then in NHL 20 (XoneX optimised) it looked much more realistic and better! If only with the current jerseys of each team (+ one Adidas jersey per team)

    Sounds strange but is unfortunately sad truth (I mean optically only the jersey not the rest !!)

  • This is MY impression of "Superstar" on this game.

    The only way they could think of to make it "harder" is for the computer opponent to score on its first shift 40% of the time and on the first SHOT 25% of the time. I pride myself on defense and it is IMPOSSIBLE to play defense in this game. I play on player lock and I watch my teammates skate around as though they are blind. My goalies average about 85% saves, meaning I have to score 5-6 goals a game to have any chance of winning. It doesn't matter what kind of settings I try to use it is like MY dmen are revolving doors and the computers dmen intercept passes their backs are turned to, and flatten anyone that tries to get near the goal.

    This is all a "cheap" way to "level the game up" Why not just make reaction speed less at each level and not muck around with the preordained results?

    Maybe some people think it is desirable to have to score 6-7 goals in order to get a win, but I do not.

    • EA_Aljo's avatar
      EA_Aljo
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      Can you get me a video of this? Just publish it through your console or put it up on YouTube and provide a link in a response. Thank you.