Any tips on how to hit shaped shots? I can’t for the life of me hit anything near accurately on the required diagonal. I default to only hitting straight shots and that is sufficient for the most part but sometimes you really need a shaped shot to have any chance to hit a green on approach.
Bear in mind that only the start and end points of your swing line matter and that the end point is always the top position for your analogue stick. Improving your accuracy skill stats will also increase the mishit tolerance in a way that helps.
I'd say I hit angled swing plane shots as I intend about 90% of the time so they're usable but not trivial for me. I actually like that there is an added challenge to hitting more advanced shots like this.
@3cee52bd3f71c2e1 wrote:Any tips on how to hit shaped shots? I can’t for the life of me hit anything near accurately on the required diagonal. I default to only hitting straight shots and that is sufficient for the most part but sometimes you really need a shaped shot to have any chance to hit a green on approach.
There is an option in SETTINGS>GAMEPLAY>SHOT SHAPING... where you set it to just a vertical swing path.
This will be overridden if you use the SIM mode preset.
I'm not sure this angled swing plane was needed for the game. Though it is an advanced concept... you can learn to adapt to it. It seems more of an annoyance than a skill to learn. It just makes me want to hit more straight shots.
In real golf I don't need to change my swing, I just change my setup. This is one of the reasons I feel we have gamers designing the game rather than golfers.
First up the angled swing plane can't be disabled for online.
When I play a daily arcade or pro tournament it now feels very wrong to me to use the simplified swing plane for shaped shots. They should be harder to hit so it feels wrong to me when they aren't.
No this feature wasn't necessary and I disliked it when I first tried it, but having stuck with it I do now really think it's a positive feature. I get the feeling many didn't give it a fair try, plus many misunderstood the required swing line and so concluded it was harder than it really was.
Oh, and as many complain the game is too easy it's worth bearing in mind this is one element of greater challenge.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:Oh, and as many complain the game is too easy it's worth bearing in mind this is one element of greater challenge.
Agreed it is an element to provide more challenge. But it doesn't translate well to how you shape a ball in real life. And it is not often that you are required to hit shaped shots in this game anyway.
I personally like how 2K implemented the difficulty and shot mechanics much better.
But I do understand where you are coming from. I will hit a shaped shot in SIM mode when required, as you said it isn't overly difficult since the shot is hinged to the 12 o'clock position of the meter.
As long as you don't apply too much draw or fade it isn't too bad to control.
Note my point about accuracy affecting mishit tolerances too. This is part of the trade off vs high power builds for me. I use shot shaping on most holes and have no concerns using max shaping (and do have reasonable control stats so it's not super limited), but I also have max drive and approach accuracy to help. I do this not because it's 'necessary' but rather simply helpful.
Remind me how 2k increases difficulty for shaped shots? I played 2k21 a bit but not recently.
i agree on your point that it seems like gamers rather than golfers are designing the game. EA seems to listen to the ApexHound who is a gamer who plays golf, but in golf, in order to shape your shots you alter your stance, this would be a better edition to the game as it was in the Links LS edition
@Allan5858 wrote:i agree on your point that it seems like gamers rather than golfers are designing the game. EA seems to listen to the ApexHound who is a gamer who plays golf, but in golf, in order to shape your shots you alter your stance, this would be a better edition to the game as it was in the Links LS edition
Okay... finally someone who shares my mindset.
I know Apexhound was also someone who liked the swing change in 2K21 when it was speeded up. I personally hated what they did with it.
I fully agree with you that shaping the ball should be done in your setup preswing.
But then I think all shots should be done this way. Rather than different shot types they should just allow you to manipulate the positioning of your character. Allowing you to open their stance, move the ball up and back in your stance, and open or close the club face.
For those learning game they could do what they do currently... have a line coming off the club face showing the ball direction.
Where a hooded club face would show it coming out low.... or where an open stance with an open club face would flop high and right for a right handed player.
I would also suggest having the swing accelerate so it is slower at the start and faster at the end of the swing. Timing full swings fir distance would be more difficult... and chipping and partial swings would be more realistic. This way all shot types could be played with one swing.
Chipping and partial shots are ridiculous in 2K with that lightning quick swing.
@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:Note my point about accuracy affecting mishit tolerances too. This is part of the trade off vs high power builds for me. I use shot shaping on most holes and have no concerns using max shaping (and do have reasonable control stats so it's not super limited), but I also have max drive and approach accuracy to help. I do this not because it's 'necessary' but rather simply helpful.
Remind me how 2k increases difficulty for shaped shots? I played 2k21 a bit but not recently.
I think we are of like mind on how we setup our characters. When I was playing with a skill character I maximized it around accuracy. I felt it was much better to be accurate than long. Especially when it came to the short game.
2K's difficulty resolves basically around 2 things... swing timing and swing path. What like about 2K's mechanics is that it is accurate... if you execute the shot it will come off as expected. What I don't like is that due to the lack of variance in the hardware it makes it far too easy easy to make shots. Plus the developer added some inherent buffers in the game to make it easier as well. In my opinion a perfectly straight shot should be 1 pixel wide and not several.
2K's mechanics are not perfect in my opinion either... but it is more realistic in how it is executed. But 2K does offer umpteem settings to allow you to find a niche setup to satisfy almost ever player. If you can be humble enough to set them for your playing level.
Except for the stupid swing speed of 2K, I would probably play it exclusively. I hate having to fight with game mechanics to make a shot.
But to answer your question... shot shaping is done at address... and not through the swing. Though if skilled enough it could be done there too by a mistimed swing. Early timing promotes a draw/hook... late a fade/slice. So as you can see it is more complex as there are layers to the 2K swing. Simple but... it can be difficult to execute. Sort of like real golf.
Reading this post I was feeling nostalgic about the old 'Links' game for computer that me and my dad enjoyed playing together for many years. I seem to remember that you actually had to adjust your stance for draws, fades and high and low shots. It wasn't spoon fed. You could also move the tee left and right within the tee box. Not sure why modern creators can't incorporate these concepts into their games. It would make it much more realistic. I know there is still a version of 'Links' on steam and tried it a couple of times but it is a watered down version of what I enjoyed about it.
