I don't know who's wise idea it was to have Captain Cannon's close range shotgun do only 20 damage, at least make it need only one ammo rather than two. Either buff the damage, fire rate, or ammo count for it.

They just can't get the Pirate's scatter shots right.Basic Deadbeard's scatter is almost as powerful as the Chemist's Beaker Blaster, hitting for 35 (38).Captain Cannon's is too weak (20 damage, 22 with damage upgrade) and has less range, sure it has faster firing, but this pirate has less ammo anyway.Captain Flameface's so called scatter is simply a weak burst of fire in front of him. Combined with it's small range and slow rate of fire, you'll find yourself still using his scope at close range.Captain Sharkbite's scatter somewhat decent, faster firing and only costing one ammo per shot at the cost of decreased range and damage.Captain Partyman's scatter (when not in party time) is the closest to balanced, dealing 30 (33) damage per shot.In my personal opinion, here's what I think should be done about each.Deadbeard: Decrease damageCannon: Increase rangeFlameface: Increase damageSharkbite: Balanced, Shouldn't changePartyman: Decrease damage (slightly)These are simply my thoughts, I do not want people to hate me for them.

Well you must be totally dense in playing Captain Cannon to begin with. He isn't a shotgun class. Period. You shouldn't expect to play him as one. The shotgun is a last ditch resort, so why should it be powerful?No, no, no and no! Completely disagree on everything you said.Learn to keep your distance and use the pirate barrel defensively.

@linger4606 wrote:Well you must be totally dense in playing Captain Cannon to begin with. He isn't a shotgun class. Period. You shouldn't expect to play him as one. The shotgun is a last ditch resort, so why should it be powerful?No, no, no and no! Completely disagree on everything you said.Learn to keep your distance and use the pirate barrel defensively. That's like asking why the other captains shotguns are so powerful. The base captain can be used efficiently with his shotgun alone.

I was a little disappointed that they did nothing with Cannon's shotgun variant. It's always been so laughably bad, just like Flameface's shotty. (twice the ammo for ONE extra point of damage unbuffed!) The clip size and ammo consumption certainly don't help either class. Sure, Cpt. Cannon's scoped attacks are fine and deadly - and they almost make up for his crappy alt fire because of the detonation radius. (and certainly powerful in a skilled player's hands) But in the end, it's still a MASSIVE Achilles heel to a class that's supposed to be great at mid/close ranges. And having to ALWAYS rely on scoping to deal damage in close range does indeed make him feel clunky. In fact, you might make him considerably less clunky if the shotgun was removed entirely. They smoothed out the timing and ease of use for his cannon in the latest patch, but why keep the crappy 20 dmg shotgun as is?

My question is linger, superiority complex much? Why is his shotgun so weak compared to all the other captains? If he is both a shotgun/sniper class, are you going to tell me next that Super Brainz shouldn't have a beam because he is a melee class, or that Chomper shouldn't have chomp cannon since he is a melee class? I don't think I've read such a banal post on these forums since now. I'm not telling it to be Chemist powered, their is a reason the cactus does more damage per shot than Deadbeard, because the Cactus doesn't have a shotgun, that is specifically why they didn't make Deadbeard's sniper shots as powerful. He has a shotgun for close range and a sniper for long range, they call him versatile in his bio for a bloody reason. What kind of person uses iron sights in point blank range? I am sorry, but at least most normal people don't. I'm not asking him to be Chemist 2.0, I'm asking him to actually be able to kill things with his Scattercannon. So instead of saying 'git gud' to make underpowered variants good, why don't you actually try using the scatter cannon yourself and actually try to use it as a last ditch even. Exactly. I am not talking some powerful elite sniper character like Camo Cactus who can't do anything at close range, I am talking about Deadbeard, who's sniper variant, Captain Sharkbite, even still has a better shotgun than him.

Buff Captain Cannon's Scattercannon

22 Replies

ShavedThronel0
10 years ago
... learn to aim. They buffed him this patch by making his bullet move faster and now your crying that you can't use a shot gun on a sniper character. Does this make sense giving a shotgun to a sniper. Be the petrified cactus and get it to rank 10 and see who really needs a buff.
IronCatFish47
10 years ago
I think he knows how to aim, but you can't kill anything with a full clip (80DMG) with captain cannon's shotgun except a vampire sunflower. Actually in a 1vs1, her HP drain from her attack would actually help her sustain and survive the damage.
Anonymous
10 years ago
You think that guy is bad try playing any cactus.
Anonymous
10 years ago
They just can't get the Pirate's scatter shots right.

Basic Deadbeard's scatter is almost as powerful as the Chemist's Beaker Blaster, hitting for 35 (38).
Captain Cannon's is too weak (20 damage, 22 with damage upgrade) and has less range, sure it has faster firing, but this pirate has less ammo anyway.
Captain Flameface's so called scatter is simply a weak burst of fire in front of him. Combined with it's small range and slow rate of fire, you'll find yourself still using his scope at close range.
Captain Sharkbite's scatter somewhat decent, faster firing and only costing one ammo per shot at the cost of decreased range and damage.
Captain Partyman's scatter (when not in party time) is the closest to balanced, dealing 30 (33) damage per shot.
In my personal opinion, here's what I think should be done about each.
Deadbeard: Decrease damage
Cannon: Increase range
Flameface: Increase damage
Sharkbite: Balanced, Shouldn't change
Partyman: Decrease damage (slightly)
These are simply my thoughts, I do not want people to hate me for them.
Anonymous
10 years ago
we hate you for your thoughts.....
linger4606
10 years ago
Lmao no! I just finished maxing Captain Cannon and I was the always top player on my teams. So many easy kills. He's OP.

I am beyond lethal with Captain Cannon, Petrified Cactus and Electro Peashooter. Easiest classes for me to max. Maybe I'm just good with detonating projectile classes?
Anonymous
10 years ago
@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

... learn to aim. They buffed him this patch by making his bullet move faster and now your crying that you can't use a shot gun on a sniper character. Does this make sense giving a shotgun to a sniper. Be the petrified cactus and get it to rank 10 and see who really needs a buff.

Except that if he does learn to aim, ANY other pirate class would be 10 times better.

Being forced to scope to actually do anything is also a massive pain to play with.
ScreenhogRSnail
10 years ago
Half of you are totally ignorant on what I mean. I meant his shotgun, the Scatter cannon, not his Extend-o-cannon. Don't try to compare his Extend-o-cannon to Electro Pea and Petrified Cactus because Captain Cannon can only use when in Iron sights. Are you going to tell me people zoom in when using the Chemist? Exactly, I am saying his shotgun should buffed because 80 damage per magazine and a slow fire rate like that is just abysmal. I don't recall Popcap giving him a shotgun for no reason, he is a versatile shotgun/sniper class. Look at Captain Sharkbite, he is focused on sniping but still has a reliable shotgun. Also the Cannon's detonation has a slight delay so I can't just immediately explode if its infront of me. Enough of these "learn to aim" comments, actually read my post before criticizing.
linger4606
10 years ago
Well you must be totally dense in playing Captain Cannon to begin with. He isn't a shotgun class. Period. You shouldn't expect to play him as one. The shotgun is a last ditch resort, so why should it be powerful?

No, no, no and no! Completely disagree on everything you said.
Learn to keep your distance and use the pirate barrel defensively.
IronCatFish47
10 years ago
@linger4606 wrote:
Well you must be totally dense in playing Captain Cannon to begin with. He isn't a shotgun class. Period. You shouldn't expect to play him as one. The shotgun is a last ditch resort, so why should it be powerful?

No, no, no and no! Completely disagree on everything you said.
Learn to keep your distance and use the pirate barrel defensively.

That's like asking why the other captains shotguns are so powerful. The base captain can be used efficiently with his shotgun alone.