I have a proposal to submit for Season 2.Many players (300? 500? 1,500?) already reached Ultimate League in Season 1, and besides the Weekly challenge and event cards, there isn't much incentive for them to go crazy on the multiplayer mode.Here is a remedy to their pain...I suggest we expand the Ultimate league with 10 levels, just like any inferior league, and create another two leagues above that: The Hero League and the Legend League.As it currently stands, there is no difference in difficulty to level up from Rank 30 upwards. It is a faster process in Diamond League (30-39) than it is in Taco League (40-49), but all you need is a 51% success rate. Even in the Ultimate League you'll accumulate stars at this pace. I believe 51% isn't very competitive (especially with all these players bragging about their 90%+ win rates 🥳 )For the Ultimate League (50-59) Each level needs 30 stars A single win rewards with 0 star;A win streak rewards with 1 star;A loss takes away 1 star;Each time the player levels up, the reward is 100 Gems. (The win rate to level up is at least 55%)For the Hero League (60-69)Ranking up to this league awards you with 600 Gems.Each level needs 30 stars A single win rewards with 0 star;A win streak rewards with 1 star and a win streak must be completed with different heroes* (hence Hero League);A 10-win streak rewards you with a level up;A loss takes away 1 star;Each time the player levels up, the reward is 150 Gems. (The win rate to level up is at least 55%)* If you reuse the same hero during your win streak, it reset the streak and gives you 0 star.Example 1:Rustbolt: Win (0 star)Brain Freeze: Win (1 star)Chompzilla: Win (1 star)Immorticia: Win (1 star)Rose: Loss (-1 star)Example 2:Rustbolt: Win (0 star)Brain Freeze: Win (1 star)Chompzilla: Win (1 star)Immorticia: Win (1 star)Brain Freeze: Win (0 star)Rose: Loss (-1 star)Of course, there would be an indication of which Heroes you already used in your streak...For the Legend League (70)Ranking up to this league awards you with 1000 Gems.There is no more levels. Instead, there is a Public Multiplayer Ladder, with the Top 200 players. A single win rewards with 0 star;A win streak rewards with 1 star, from the 4th 3rd win onwards and a win streak must be completed with different heroes; (the win rate to climb the ladder is at least 60%)A 10-win streak rewards you with 100 gems;A loss takes away 0 star, but there is a cumulative loss streak malus of 1 star. (2nd consecutive loss: -1 star, 3rd consecutive loss: -2 stars, etc.)Similar to the Hero League, you cannot reuse a Hero in your win streak.Comments and Suggestions welcome. 😉TL;DR: 3 Cool new leagues for Multiplayers Matches. Interested? Read above.

i think it will just the same like before. when everyone reach the final league, they will get bored. Instead of adding more league, how about make WorldWide LeaderBoard for Ultimate League? These will keep the competitive atmosphere. Plus, the next update will give us shorter season time, so i think Leaderboard still a good choice when players already in Ultimate League

The min % win on Wooden and Bronze should just be "N/A" since, given enough games played, any rate greater than zero theoretically eventually yields a rank up. "Min % win" should reflect the "worst-case scenario" where the first match/es give a star and the number of stars is never again zero. As such, @jaydabbler is right that ranking up in the proposed Hero, Ultimate and Legend leagues requires a 75% winrate.I offer a slightly altered idea for the Hero league... To rank up, you must win a game with every hero (as originally given). When you win, that hero is marked complete. When you lose, one of the marked completes is unmarked. I'd then move the league between Taco and Ultimate, leaving Ultimate and Legend unique in their awarding 0 stars for a solitary win.Another option instead of requiring a streak-bonus in order to win stars, how about the normal "a win awards a star" (and no streak bonus) but then a loss drops you two stars? It's still a 75% winrate, but I'm just trying to think of which is better for a player's psychology.Also, a top 100 leaderboard sounds like a good addition to whichever league is top dog. And then I was like "every league should get a leaderboard". And then I was like "but that doesn't even make sense". And then I was like "I know, but I still want a leaderboard".

@AphidOfDeath wrote:The min % win on Wooden and Bronze should just be "N/A" since, given enough games played, any rate greater than zero theoretically eventually yields a rank up. "Min % win" should reflect the "worst-case scenario" where the first match/es give a star and the number of stars is never again zero. As such, @jaydabbler is right that ranking up in the proposed Hero, Ultimate and Legend leagues requires a 75% winrate.I offer a slightly altered idea for the Hero league... To rank up, you must win a game with every hero (as originally given). When you win, that hero is marked complete. When you lose, one of the marked completes is unmarked. I'd then move the league between Taco and Ultimate, leaving Ultimate and Legend unique in their awarding 0 stars for a solitary win.Another option instead of requiring a streak-bonus in order to win stars, how about the normal "a win awards a star" (and no streak bonus) but then a loss drops you two stars? It's still a 75% winrate, but I'm just trying to think of which is better for a player's psychology.Also, a top 100 leaderboard sounds like a good addition to whichever league is top dog. And then I was like "every league should get a leaderboard". And then I was like "but that doesn't even make sense". And then I was like "I know, but I still want a leaderboard". @AphidOfDeath Thank you for providing a constructive comment/criticism. It only took 14 replies to get there... 🤔I like your version of the Hero league, but that would require all players in that league to have unlock all heroes, and I'm not quite sure everyone would be just there yet. Otherwise, a player with only 12 heroes unlocked would level up way faster/easier than a player with all 20 heroes unlocked.Anyway, the idea is to "encourage" players to use all heroes, as I'm pretty sure some players in the Ultimate league play with the same 2-3 heroes over and over (because that's their best decks) and pat themselves in the back because they are soooooooo good at this game... 😉Considering the way to earn stars, I weighed the pros and cons of having to make a win streak or losing 2 stars. The reason why I chose the former is because sometimes, sh*t happen. You get a phone call, you temporary lose mobile coverage or your wifi drops out, and you are mad enough to not get the opportunity to win that game where you had a confortable board position. Losing 2 stars in this scenario would be even more frustrating. That's my perspective on it. (However, I wouldn't be against a 2-star loss for those who rage quit when there is a "concede" button readily available)Finally, for the leaderboard, I placed it in the Legend League because it would eventually reflect the best players in that league. However, we should have a leaderboard from day1, even if the #1 is "only" in the Gold League... After further consideration, I'd decrease the win streak to 3 in the Legend League otherwise not many would earn stars. We could also put in place a loss streak where the first loss is "free", the second loss make you lose 1 star, the third loss 2 stars, etc.I would also like to see a bonus for players winning above their league: 1 league difference +1 star, 2 leagues difference +2 stars, etc. That would encourage new players to give it their best shot instead of conceding just after the match up, which is often the case.

You guys and your numbers jeez. Here's my opinion. I think most of the player base isn't even in ultimate league and it already takes a long time to get there. I don't think there is a need for higher leagues. All that will do is create leagues with even less people than ultimate league. I think the best solution for maxed players is a leaderboard so they can still have a sense of progression. It's baffling that there isn't a leaderboard already. Maybe even have it reset every week and award gems to the top players. The new leagues just seem like too much and unnecessary.

It is good idea but will EA give you much free gems?? I dont think so, its all about the money money money 🎤🎤🎤🎶🎶🎶

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Expanding Ultimate League and Beyond

I have a proposal to submit for Season 2.

Many players (300? 500? 1,500?) already reached Ultimate League in Season 1, and besides the Weekly challenge and event cards, there isn't much incentive for them to go crazy on the multiplayer mode.

Here is a remedy to their pain...

I suggest we expand the Ultimate league with 10 levels, just like any inferior league, and create another two leagues above that: The Hero League and the Legend League.

As it currently stands, there is no difference in difficulty to level up from Rank 30 upwards. It is a faster process in Diamond League (30-39) than it is in Taco League (40-49), but all you need is a 51% success rate. Even in the Ultimate League you'll accumulate stars at this pace. I believe 51% isn't very competitive (especially with all these players bragging about their 90%+ win rates 🥳 )

For the Ultimate League (50-59)

Each level needs 30 stars
A single win rewards with 0 star;
A win streak rewards with 1 star;
A loss takes away 1 star;
Each time the player levels up, the reward is 100 Gems. (The win rate to level up is at least 55%)

For the Hero League (60-69)

Ranking up to this league awards you with 600 Gems.
Each level needs 30 stars
A single win rewards with 0 star;
A win streak rewards with 1 star and a win streak must be completed with different heroes* (hence Hero League);
A 10-win streak rewards you with a level up;
A loss takes away 1 star;
Each time the player levels up, the reward is 150 Gems. (The win rate to level up is at least 55%)

* If you reuse the same hero during your win streak, it reset the streak and gives you 0 star.

Example 1:

Rustbolt: Win (0 star)
Brain Freeze: Win (1 star)
Chompzilla: Win (1 star)
Immorticia: Win (1 star)
Rose: Loss (-1 star)

Example 2:

Rustbolt: Win (0 star)
Brain Freeze: Win (1 star)
Chompzilla: Win (1 star)
Immorticia: Win (1 star)
Brain Freeze: Win (0 star)
Rose: Loss (-1 star)

Of course, there would be an indication of which Heroes you already used in your streak...

For the Legend League (70)

Ranking up to this league awards you with 1000 Gems.
There is no more levels. Instead, there is a Public Multiplayer Ladder, with the Top 200 players.
A single win rewards with 0 star;
A win streak rewards with 1 star, from the ~~4th~~ 3rd win onwards and a win streak must be completed with different heroes; (the win rate to climb the ladder is at least 60%)
A 10-win streak rewards you with 100 gems;
A loss takes away 0 star, but there is a cumulative loss streak malus of 1 star. (2nd consecutive loss: -1 star, 3rd consecutive loss: -2 stars, etc.)

Similar to the Hero League, you cannot reuse a Hero in your win streak.

Comments and Suggestions welcome. 😉

TL;DR: 3 Cool new leagues for Multiplayers Matches. Interested? Read above.

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Anonymous
8 years ago
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It is good idea but will EA give you much free gems?? I dont think so, its all about the money money money 🎤🎤🎤🎶🎶🎶
Anonymous
8 years ago
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i think it will just the same like before. when everyone reach the final league, they will get bored. Instead of adding more league, how about make WorldWide LeaderBoard for Ultimate League? These will keep the competitive atmosphere. Plus, the next update will give us shorter season time, so i think Leaderboard still a good choice when players already in Ultimate League
jaydabbler
8 years ago
not sure you really understand the math behind minimum win % ....
for the first league - in order to gain stars in the first 4 games you need to win 3 times for each loss. (75%)
just to maintain stars, it requires 2 wins per 1 loss (66%)
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@jaydabbler wrote:
not sure you really understand the math behind minimum win % ....
for the first league - in order to gain stars in the first 4 games you need to win 3 times for each loss. (75%)
just to maintain stars, it requires 2 wins per 1 loss (66%)
You are right, I was wrong. I took a shortcut to do the math...
For the Ultimate League, the minimum win rate is 51,7%
For the Hero League, the minimum win rate is 55,6%
For the Legend League, the minimum win rate is 52% (100 match sample)
Thank you for questioning my math. Now I'll question your English, and invite you to revise the definitions of "minimum" and "average".
Once you are done doing so, perhaps you can comment on the idea, rather than picking on the details. 😉
jaydabbler
8 years ago
you can't average an unknown sample of 100 games by making up the wins/losses in order to prove your math.
The only % that can be obtained from your scenario is 'worst case', which is 3:1 win ratio.
to reduce that number over 100 games (which is what you said) you would have to assume some form of win streaks. And that assumption makes the "average" invalid.
Anonymous
8 years ago
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Correct.
"Worst case" scenario is 3:1 ratio.
How about "Best case" scenario? Wouldn't that be the minimum % required to level up? 😉
jaydabbler
8 years ago
best case scenario is winning 100% of your games
jaydabbler
8 years ago
winning 51% currently is how to level up, worst case scenario. If you win more - great. Best case scenario is 100% of your games
your proposal has a new "worse case" scenario, which is 75%.
jaydabbler
8 years ago
and now that I type that out, I actually don't see any method to getting 55.6% win percentage, as a best or worst case scenario
Anonymous
8 years ago
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@jaydabbler wrote:
and now that I type that out, I actually don't see any method to getting 55.6% win percentage, as a best or worst case scenario
Forget about best/worst case.
Your daily challenge is to find how you can level up by winning only 55.6% of your games. 😉
Then, perhaps, you can discuss the idea rather than the math...

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