My Take on "how to change healers" in BfN

I like the sound of a limit to heals with a meter. Instead of a cd I think it should regen kinda like shields do. If u ain't healing it should regen.
I dont like the sound of all your other nerfs though sorry. I'm pretty sure the whole reason why the healers are slightly overtuned is because they aren't popular picks. Yes, Sunflower and Scientist are very good and hard to deal with, but noone plays them. I rarely ever catch people playing the characters, and when I do most of the time the people aren't even that good with them. nerfing damage is not the way to go for sunflower imo. gutting the dmg of supports even further might put people off trying them out completely. 
If we want to nerf both sunflower's dmg and healing they should at least give her 110 hp back so she doesnt get popped by everything.

I can basically kill any plant 1on1 with the scientist.   Even with the nerf to the primary a patch or 2 ago.   The sun flower does not out damage the scientist.  

With the sun flower,I can hold my own but I am always thinking about an exit plan.  The  mentalities are much different compared with the scientist.   But I'll admit the sun flower is MUCH easier to use. 

You do have some very interesting concepts tho.   Just, I agree with @chogath_player, you are basically nerfing the sun flower to the ground so that in the off chance you go against a decent sun flower, that she won't survive the way she does.   

The changes I would recommend is a slight decrease in rate of healing of her heal beam.  Or a slight decrease of healing per star in sunny side up.   Or maybe have 2 instead of 3 sunny side ups.  That's probably all im willing to do.  

I am curious how you would balance out night cap and the space station. 

@GutmanSca I think this is a little harsh for Sunflower. Her damage with Sun pulse is justified but I guess fall off wouldnt be bad IF it is applied to other classes too. Sunflowers being aggressive with Sun Pulse are just easy pickings.

Sunny Side Up only heals 3 Hp per sundrop, and it really doesn't heal that much, even in a 1v1. So I dont think SSU needs a nerf. What makes her so hard to play against is her Heal Beam, especially with the Blossom upgrade. Heal Beam's healing output is the main problem with Sunflower. 

As for Scientists, I haven't noticed any Invincibility frames. The biggest problem with Scientist is that he can warp instantly. I like being able to Warp in any direction but there should be a A wind-up time to Warp. Seriously, Popcap needs to look back at GW2 and see why Scientist and other classes were balanced. (Instead of making Scientist play like Tracer)

Bottom line, Sunflower is hard to kill when her team protects her (especially with Blossom upgrade) and Heal beam makes it difficult to kill her Team. Scientist is hard to kill because Warp is too easy to use.

No offence, but making Heal beam and Healing hose have a limit to it, especially Sunflower who can only effectively heal one person at a time,is unnecessary and will make Healers overcomplicated and too limited. Healers are effective because they can give out an infinite amount of healing. And with Sprinting being in the game, I'd argue BFN plays a little faster than the GW games, so making healing slower wouldnt be good.

Although, it is an interesting idea, and I would not mind this being a weird sidegrade for Heal Beam/Healing Hose if it can work.

Sunflowers are ridiculously good compared to scientist as displayed in the latest weekly event. Sunflowers have a great AoE heal and on top of that can outDPS a scientist easily.

Should I make a video on how to kill a sun flower because the tone im getting from various threads is that she is extremely op and she needs to nerfed into trash-tier.  Especially now in a 12v12 TT, she isn't as effective.  She is still a very good healer but that's basically the only thing she is good at.  

When I see a sun flower,  you HAVE to be smart on how to approach her and her healee (the person she's healing).  Sit there and try to 2v1 them or even 2v2 them is hard enough.   When I see them,  I RUN.  Until I can find a good enough situation where I can kill her quick then handle her healee.  Like when I see an 80s in rocket ride, I RUN. Same concept.   And just because I run doesn't mean I don't get kills as can become the vanquish master quite easily.  I just know there are some situation where I know im at a disadvantage,  and against a sun flower and their healee is one of them.   You have to position yourself in as many advantageous situations as possible and decrease the amount of disadvantageous situations

I agree she needs a nerd, MINOR nerf, decrease sunny side up freon 3 to 2 or something.  But not all of that.   Like someone else said,  try playing as the sun flower first and see how hard it is to be a good sun flower.   You don't get much kills,  sometimes it's not even fun because you get targeted, as the opponents should, and you usually die first.  You can't be caught by yourself unless you know the the zombie isn't as good.   Again like someone else said, the zombies dps is ridiculously much better compared to the plants. 

Here's my take on how the healers could be changed: 🙂

For sunflowers, reducing the amount of damage or healing that she provides might help, but don't reduce both.

For scientists, perhaps reduce his damage but increase his healing so that he becomes less of an offensive character and more of a support!

What I would really be interested in is whether or not the strong Sunflowers people come across are using upgrade combinations that were allowed before the upgrade cost increase to Blossom . . . there hasn't been any change that I'm aware of forcing players to reselect their upgrade combinations.

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