I find this series to be a piece of art, so I really do enjoy taking screen shots of neat moments or load outs other players are using as I play. I saw on the Trello that there is a new feature planned to give enemies players some sort of red glow or outline. I really hate this as it'll basically lower the beauty and feeling of this world if the enemies have jarring red outlines or glows. I don't even really understand the confusion a player could have as there are two very well defined and different looking sides. If it really must come to be (goodbye hiding on a point to try to stall as well), I would really would prefer this to be optional.

I'm with you... This is a major "nerf" to many tactics and heroes.Good bye to:Sneaky Gatling Peashooters.Rooftop campers.Snipers blending in to shoot. (Yeah, I know there is already a glint, but believe it or not, the glint helps more than works against you under certain circumstances. It can hide your character model in bright areas.)Garlic Drone. (Garlic Drones now blend nicely in bright skies.)Imps.Nightcaps will be easier to spot.Vanquished enemies on the floor should be more distinguishable from alive ones especially the plants. (Certain death poses, especially for smaller characters like Nightcap and Acorn, can be deceiving sometimes.)Sneaky acorns reviving bigger plants while blending inside their character models. (I did that a couple of times lol.)It would also increase the awareness of where the enemies are around objectives. (for example, in cheese mines, when attacking as plants, you will be able to see all zombies' highlights from all sides and decide how to approach the objective. Without highlights, you may or may not be able to see others on the left side for example very well. Some players know how to blend in easily.)I think it's mostly an indirect nerf to the plants. Most zombies are easy to spot, easy to know whether they're down or not and they also have flashy abilities.The current system, without highlights, encourages players to be more aware of their surroundings by listening/looking and being careful. I'm afraid, the new system will make things easier. Which means it would make it harder for you to stay alive. We'll see what happens...If I were them, I'd make a weekend only mode called "Beta PvP". In that mode, I try all the new ideas and collect data/feedback before implementing it in the major modes.Edit: Format

@EA_David None please. This game doesn't need it. Part of the charm is the strategy you can use to be sneaky. I loved the sunflower hat in GW 1 for the foot soldier. It required a double take on an inexperienced plant's part to recognize the enemy.Things that require in game player experience to know how to deal with them are a good thing. This type of thing needs played up. Not down.Also, please put less invisible walls on rooftops and high locations in future maps. Being able to get to odd places and be sneaky was one of the best GW1 features.

Thanks for the feedback, let us know what sort of FoF identifiers you'd like (if any).

@BootStool Can you post a link?If it’s a highlight like a ping, I can definitely understand that. I already stated that this game needs something like that cause the times I’ve seen a solitary enemy move his way behind my squad and they not noticing him until they’re dead is baffling.If it’s just always... well I can’t even see that cause it doesn’t fit. If I remember correctly from my first time playing and seeing the control scheme I saw a ‘highlight enemy’ input. So it might just be that.

@Iron_Guard8 wrote:I really don't want this at all. I also don't think we need this. If I miss an enemy due to not noticing them or the chaos of battle, it's just part of the game.This.Please, PLEASE, do not add indicators to this game. Myself and many gamers from GW2 forums asked for this to be removed. Camping and targeting are only successful with indicators shown.

Please make the planned "Highlight Enemies Red" optional

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Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@BootStool Can you post a link?

If it’s a highlight like a ping, I can definitely understand that. I already stated that this game needs something like that cause the times I’ve seen a solitary enemy move his way behind my squad and they not noticing him until they’re dead is baffling.

If it’s just always... well I can’t even see that cause it doesn’t fit. If I remember correctly from my first time playing and seeing the control scheme I saw a ‘highlight enemy’ input. So it might just be that.
GammaX6
6 years ago
I'm with you... This is a major "nerf" to many tactics and heroes.
Good bye to:
Sneaky Gatling Peashooters.
Rooftop campers.
Snipers blending in to shoot. (Yeah, I know there is already a glint, but believe it or not, the glint helps more than works against you under certain circumstances. It can hide your character model in bright areas.)
Garlic Drone. (Garlic Drones now blend nicely in bright skies.)
Imps.
Nightcaps will be easier to spot.
Vanquished enemies on the floor should be more distinguishable from alive ones especially the plants. (Certain death poses, especially for smaller characters like Nightcap and Acorn, can be deceiving sometimes.)
Sneaky acorns reviving bigger plants while blending inside their character models. (I did that a couple of times lol.)
It would also increase the awareness of where the enemies are around objectives. (for example, in cheese mines, when attacking as plants, you will be able to see all zombies' highlights from all sides and decide how to approach the objective. Without highlights, you may or may not be able to see others on the left side for example very well. Some players know how to blend in easily.)
I think it's mostly an indirect nerf to the plants. Most zombies are easy to spot, easy to know whether they're down or not and they also have flashy abilities.
The current system, without highlights, encourages players to be more aware of their surroundings by listening/looking and being careful. I'm afraid, the new system will make things easier. Which means it would make it harder for you to stay alive.
We'll see what happens...
If I were them, I'd make a weekend only mode called "Beta PvP". In that mode, I try all the new ideas and collect data/feedback before implementing it in the major modes.
Edit: Format
BootStool
6 years ago
It's listed in the Upcoming Patch section with Friend or Foe Identification saying people are having trouble telling friends and foes apart... which is really silly on it's own. But even if some people need the help with that, I rather not have to look at ugly red outlines or auras on the enemy team. I rather appreciate their goofy and adorable zombie or plant selves!
https://trello.com/b/x7uUvrqG/pvzbfn-tracker
EA_David
Community Admin
6 years ago
Thanks for the feedback, let us know what sort of FoF identifiers you'd like (if any).
newbebop
6 years ago
@EA_David None please. This game doesn't need it. Part of the charm is the strategy you can use to be sneaky. I loved the sunflower hat in GW 1 for the foot soldier. It required a double take on an inexperienced plant's part to recognize the enemy.

Things that require in game player experience to know how to deal with them are a good thing. This type of thing needs played up. Not down.

Also, please put less invisible walls on rooftops and high locations in future maps. Being able to get to odd places and be sneaky was one of the best GW1 features.
BootStool
6 years ago
Personally, I'd prefer none. It does hurt most sneaky strategy styles for sure. Sometimes hiding in plain sight helps buy your team some time or allow you to get a drop on your enemies. Something to reveal you would really hurt any chance of pulling these off.
If it has to happen, I at least hope it's something I can toggle off. The game is beautiful and I really rather not see red outlines or aura all over the place instead of the beautiful setting and characters the game has!
Iron_Guard8
Legend
6 years ago
I really don't want this at all. I also don't think we need this. If I miss an enemy due to not noticing them or the chaos of battle, it's just part of the game.
newbebop
6 years ago
@Iron_Guard8 Yes
spIash_damage
6 years ago
@Iron_Guard8 wrote:
I really don't want this at all. I also don't think we need this. If I miss an enemy due to not noticing them or the chaos of battle, it's just part of the game.
This.
Please, PLEASE, do not add indicators to this game. Myself and many gamers from GW2 forums asked for this to be removed. Camping and targeting are only successful with indicators shown.
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@Iron_Guard8 Nooo noo, this isn’t right. I don’t wanna do extra work because 1 enemy slips past 4 ppl of my team and nobody noticing!

Usually this scenario happends. One enemy gets past. And I’m not talking going way around by way of flanking. I’m talking about my team shooting and an enemy is like 2 meters behind them and walking past. And then as soon as he passed the last one... he starts firing but ppl in my team either aren’t aware or don’t care and then his buddies slso advance so a whole team gets sandwiched...

THIS is why I WANT a highlight. It doesn’t have to be a long highlight. Just like I either stated in this thread or another, a highlight indicating an enemy nearby for 2-4 seconds and then it goes back to normal.