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Razeranthem372
3 years ago

Re: EA, PLEASE READ. DON'T KILL THE GAME.

I for the last 2 years have been trying to find a solution for Battle for Neighborville, and I think I have.

The biggest problem with Plants vs. Zombies Battle for Neighborville is that it didn't really attract its fans like Plants vs. Zombies GW2 did. Simply they made the game almost 70% different than the previous one. I feel that whenever someone tries to make a movie or show you should always leave some originality from the previous parts so that original fans can connect with the story. Battle for Neighborville doesn't give that feel of originality all that much.

A second reason I think the game didn't do so well is because you don't have enough to really do in the game to begin with. Once you  complete all four regions in the game the game pretty much is over from that point. Garden Warfare 2 featured the trials Gnomus which had you unlock two extra characters it also featured story mode similar to battle for Neighborville and it featured the pretty much fun chore of simply trying to unlock all characters.

I know what PopCap originally tried to do with battle for Neighborville and I think the original plan was give us more upgrades to make the game more interesting + new characters, although the biggest disappointment of fellow fans was that there were no more Elemental character variants.

I should say Battle for Neighborville does not deserve to be left behind and in a general sense what happens if Plants vs Zombies 2 were not to become a hit anymore it could be fatal to the whole Plants versus Zombies series for the future.

Please Popcap do not discontinue the Plants vs Zombies third person shooter series!

I have ideas that will make Battle for Neighborville turn into what it was truly meant to be Plants Vs zombies Garden Warfare 3.

Plants vs. Zombies Battle for Neighborville live on! Live On!

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  • Razeranthem372's avatar
    Razeranthem372
    3 years ago

    I will keep these ideas up in case anybody wants to see them.

    (3 out of 19 already in the game, not really.)

    Fire

    Ice

    Electric 

    Toxic

    Armor

    Shadow

    Light

    Goo

    Hyper

    Party

    Plasma

    Wind

    Sound

    Hypno

    Ghost

    Digital

    Vampire

    Bomb

    Agent 

    While some of these variants are already in Garden Warfare 2 a lot of them are new and completely from me.

     Popcap & EA if you're seeing this then please rethink about this fatal decision to stop working on the Plants vs. Zombie shooters (Please 😭 continue the series!)

  • Razeranthem372's avatar
    Razeranthem372
    3 years ago

    Hello my fellow Brothers and Sisters of Plants vs. Zombies as the fight for continuing Battle for Neighborville goes on I'm sorry to disappoint you with some bad news . . . it looks like PopCap actually is going to stop working on the Plants vs. Zombie shooters as Justin Wiebe put up a post regarding this. So as of right now there's no official news that they are going to continue Battle for Neighborville. However the team of PopCap is still working on Plants vs Zombies 3 and it's early release beta and future Plants vs Zombies mobile games. Still it does not look like we are likely in the future to get any more shooters. Sorry but this is official 😭 R.I.P. Plants vs. Zombies Battle for Neighborville. 

  • MrGamer8000's avatar
    MrGamer8000
    3 years ago

    I know how that feels, but I had doubts about Battle for Neighborville when they've removed almost all the aspects from Garden Warfare that made the game enjoyable.

    The best thing to do is move on to a different franchise or find a new hobby. BFN is known to be responsible for killing the franchise.

     

     

     

     

  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @MrGamer8000 Bfn is such an oddpoint in pvz. I seriously wonder what made popcap decide to make a bad overwatch clone instead of just building upon a series that was already highly successful. Even more so after the great reception to the tale of the taco and walnut hills in gw2.

    Everytime i ever play nowadays I just keep thinking "I could be playing a more refined version of the same game in gw". Seriously how do you make a game that go backs on several basic features from gw1 back in 2014 like the awful changes to base capturing and Suburbination bases or the absolutely sluggish ttk compared to gw.

    Even the environments feel weak as I explained in aesthetic post and the even bigger push to cartoony designs by the series (yeah its always been cartoonish but bfn and 3 just feels flanderized at points, especially with how much they try and inject more bits of humor into it).
  • MrGamer8000's avatar
    MrGamer8000
    3 years ago
    @stukapooka Apparently all the hard work goes to PvE contents when the majority of PvZ shooters have always been about PvP.

    One thing I liked about BFN is when you destroy objects such as crates or cars, it yields coins. Overall, I wasn't too fond of the game not including what makes the game fun. Right now, I'm done with PvZ shooters and I've been over EA itself since Battlefront 2 launched.
  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
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    3 years ago
    @MrGamer8000 Apparently bfn was originally suppose to just be a pve game but over time they mustve slapped the pvp onto it. It really sticks out with the maps being reused pve assets and a clear sign of where the budget went.
  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
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    3 years ago

    I've mostly been playing GW2 as it has more to do solo than GW, and I hit max level in BfN, and already had all the achievements and 100% free roam regions done. There isn't much of an incentive to go back there as the multiplayer maps aren't as fun as the GW games, and the Ops are nowhere near as good as they were in the GW games either. 

    While I'm happy that we can still play all 3 games, we really need a new PvZ shooter as the current ones have been in maintenance mode for years now. The lack of any evidence of a sequel is depressing at this stage since PvZ3 is still in an iffy state, and it's the only actively developed PvZ game I can think of (PvZ2 is still up and running and doing well, but it's been out for a long time now). There are still a lot of people that play the current shooters, but a new one would be best, and the sooner the better so we don't lose more people; although don't release it in the same state that BfN was in during Founders, as that's part of why it didn't do so well.

  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
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    3 years ago
    @Iron_Guard8 The state of the franchise is in a really shaky state right now. At this point they should just hand the games over to the community if their not gonna even work on them to fix issues like the gw2 turf matchmaking or the absolutely abysmal mystery portal rotation.

    I don't care if a new game gets made tomorrow or ten years from now as all i want is for popcap to actually talk to us rather than just announce a pvz 2 plant every full moon.

    Waiting is imo the worst thing popcap can do as the fanbase will just move on the longer they wait to do anything much like they did when bfn had nothing interesting going on for a whole back when it did get updates.

    Bfn ops is just really painful. Gw1 despite its lack of content compared to gw2 still had a lot of fun put into like the gimmick waves like "they hunger" where zombies would just wear all food cosmetics. Soldiers took to the rooftops to attack way more than the other games. The zombie classes even taunted you before unleashing attacks like all star giving a thumbs up than launching an imp your way, The infinitely better garden design that I mentioned in a post only like one person read lol.
  • Iron_Guard8's avatar
    Iron_Guard8
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    3 years ago

    @stukapooka  I just now saw your post and added to it! I somehow missed it.

    It's sad that we get so little communication from PopCap these days as it's not a good look for a beloved franchise. PvZ2 needs to stop with all the premium plants and other issues that hurt it, I quit playing it awhile back despite enjoying it a lot. We have all 3 shooters still playable which I do appreciate, but no updates, no patches, not dealing with cheaters well, not giving us decent mystery portals, new players can't get some achievements done, and no news on a new game is a terrible situation. And then we have Heroes that could use some love, along with PvZ3 still in limbo.

    People want to play these games and as @pilrpq7unx3c pointed out, if EA would stop just releasing stuff without solid support to make a quick buck, and give it better support and attention, they could actually make more money and also get some goodwill with the fanbase. People love PvZ (it's why I'm still here), and the shooters did very well, even if BfN didn't do anywhere near as well as the GW games. Right now, we have to assume that we are not getting a new shooter anytime soon (if we are, communicate that to us!), and with so many people still playing, and lots of new folks thanks to GW2 going up on Steam, the least we can expect is for people to be able to get the stuff they missed (achievements, hats, legendary bots/pots, etc.) in GW2 since that game's achievements rely on portals and community events, and GW2 is the most popular of all 3. Even if we get a new game out of the blue (unlikely as that is), the current players need solid signs of support for the games we have, still love, still play, and can still pay for!

  • stukapooka's avatar
    stukapooka
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @Iron_Guard8 Pvz 2 is a rollercoaster of a game. I really do like it but it feels so sluggish at points and difficulty spiking later on just make it a chore at times. They keep adding new premium plants and grindy modes but at the same time still havent given the game a solid conclusion or an official pc port (alongside not porting pvz1 to modern consoles despite the fact that the game was basically succesful everywhere back in the day) over almost a decade and it makes you wonder why there even doing a pvz3 if there still supporting 2 this much.

    Their twitter is constantly people just telling them to communicate with their fans and one guy's highly rated tweet told them to stop acting like some indie dev team that have fans just waiting in anticipation for their next move as their bleeding fans.

    3 is really gonna have to come out of the gate swinging to justify itself existing alongside 2. Im not saying you cant dial things back down a bit but pvz 2 just has so much content at this point.

    The gw2 steam port is so strange to me. It came out of nowhere slapped bfn silly with its playercount thats still almost 3x higher today yet they didnt do anything for gw1 or even bother to try andfox the achievement/portal problem despite the fact that they had to create more servers for PC after the steam boost.

    If there not gonna talk to us the smartest thing they could do is atleast give the shooters to the community as gw2 at least has a rather strong modding scene that even restores the lost modes.

    Its just so headache inducing trying to figure out modern popcap.

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