Two Community Suggestions Implemented in <12 mo...Proof EA is listening?

@robotechnology80 Absolutely outstanding observation Mac...wish I could give you more than one XP. As my memory serves the discussion began with a simple exchange between @ModernThinker and myself during the 1st week of the war games and many outstanding players joined the discussion and offered a great deal of insight. I’m not about to say this had anything to do with the shield busters or the knockdown/out timer...we all know that it was economically driven with the exodus caused by the “bubble strategy”. Sadly, I think what we’re seeing are three things, the remnants of those lamenting over losing the “race to the bubble strategy”, the overwhelming frustration with the hacking and cheating Issues and EA’s election not to communicate what actions if any are being taken...resulting in a very poor job of managing perception.

I think your position is absolutely correct, let’s give it a shot and see what happens. Perhaps it might even serve as a method to readily identify those that are taking shortcuts...dare I say maybe assist in addressing cheaters. Well done, stay safe and say hi to the guys.

About a year ago I first saw someone suggest it, and a while later repost the idea myself.  In a game before shield buster it made sense.  These days, with shield buster, about all ending a war sooner does is impede certain CoM tasks at a time when the (also new) rewards system there is popular.

Personally, I’ve opted for semi retirement recently and a change like this does nothing to have me reevaluate that choice.  It’s not necessarily good or bad, but it was dev time not spent on the one and only thing I’d like to see:

Removing hacks and hackers.

Until that’s seriously addressed nothing else matters.  I won’t return to regular play and I won’t be spending any money.  I recognize as well that the majority of T6 has been cheats for a while now, long enough for hope to fade.   In keeping with the idea of positive player suggested changes, I’ll put this one out there:

Since the hacking issues apparently can’t be fixed just give everyone unlimited war items.  Functionally remove them.  Deliveries can be used to generate war sims, small bonuses, triggering attack combos (else it’d be all mags all the time), or whatever, as long as it’s not an avenue to new exploits.  Hackers lose their top reason to cheat, and everyone else gets to compete again.  Variations welcome.

One thing I've noticed is they will now kick cheats mid game.   We reported the obvious, and ea actually kicked them out mid war allowing us the win.

I dont get this new cant stay bubbled thing.   I work and sleep.

I will attack when I can.

They can't expect us to be awake 36 hours. 

Yes.  I'm sort of playing,  more fun with the anti hacker updates.

I think this new one will get rid of feeder cities if it works how I think

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@robotechnology80 wrote:

I'm not what one would call an eternal optimist, but the amount of preemptive lamenting I'm seeing in online groups for this game about a feature that it seemed like most players wanted at one point, is honestly disappointing and mind boggling. Can we take some solace in the fact that we have clear evidence now that our opinions are actually taken into consideration, and also at least wait if and until the idea crashes and burns before we renew our digital pitchforks? 🤔

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I can understand the feeling, but I don't assume it in such a way, it is not only the intention, it is solving and knowing how to listen. I can tell they heard the community (kind of) but it's a poorly executed favor. 

if the community still complains, that is EA's fault, not the community as a group of people impossible to satisfy. 

the detail is that we can't pinpoint without seeing the context, and then create an observation and then draw a conclusion from the community. Yeah they heard that, but come on, they not only broke wars, also a lot of COM players came here saying, oh EA I see you modified wars, but, why we have to deal with that? I'm a builder player, please remove those com tasks you added, and this is already old and EA has not wanted to eliminate them despite the decline in popularity.

so when I look at the '' update '' I not only focus on that they looked for the way to finish bubble teams, but I all put everything on a weight scale and look. 

The idea isn't bad actually! I can say thanks but yeah keep going EA because... I mean, now we have these wars and... come on. 

The players who before says that hitting and they stay bubbled wasn't a strategy, I guess they can also see that hitting one single city with jackpot and buster over and over again, making 80000 first hour isn't a strategy also... uh.. They just took something bad from us to give us another bad, but if we can say thanks for taking that bad away, lol.

The other problem that makes the community seemed like tired, is the horribly problem about hackers that is in the whole forum, It seems that there is not a single player who can say "I have never seen a hacker" and that is really serious

We can all says a big thanks when the thing is finally complete.

Shield Buster isn't a bad idea, in my opinion they can solve be: 1. after used in one city you need to wait 20 minutes to use again in that city, that prevents the whole team just using one city of the enemy to make too much points. 2. Medikits need to be more challenging, all players having 30 of that means they can launch like 200 shield buster per war, totally out of control. 3. The enemy is not getting the items when is bustered, that also damaged the balance, when you gets online and just see the enemy already have 80.000 points, only one city in your team is bubbled, no one can respond the same cuz no items, almost all say: oh this is boring let's wait next war. 

In our club we try to hit all the members to give them the ability to fight back so we also get items by their respond, how is that? a vs game where you just help the opponent? like come on wake up fight with us we're getting bored. This shows a failure in the design.

I can thank EA for listening, but please keep doing it, 🙂  

 
EA has to stay interested, I know it can be overwhelming to see a lot of complaints, but I think these forums in such a way are to show that, and I think that as players (it's my way of seeing it) we have a responsibility to point out what they are doing well and what they are doing wrong, so I glad that you @robotechnology80   show the good points 😃  

EA should improve shield buster... 

The player who gets hit by S.B. should automatically receive all the rewards (war supplies & war simoleons) for the buildings being repaired. This would make Wars more interesting & more balanced.

No reason why they could not modify it to require 5 medkits, make it more expensive. It may make it use more selective.

I am also not sure it should work on a city that is only under a brolly... it probably should only work if the city is domed. 

In terms of a city losing repairs, this could do evened up by adding an item multiplier to some of the repairs that are the result of attacks after the SB, as they have done with war deliveries.

Yes, it’s cool that EA is finally doing something about it. And this update will be good against feeder cities. But I do suspect that the wave of updates is due their cash register not ringing as often, so they are doing lots of things in hopes of retaining their customer base.

Though this update comes too late already. They should have actively resolved this bubble issue when club wars was in its infancy and the interest in it was still great. For any games, developers should be looking out for issues when they first launched their products and solving any problems arose before the problems blew up to epic proportions. Sadly, EA chose to focus on counting the moolahs and ignored our concerns. That is lack of foresight.

Most legit players got addicted to bubble strategy and when shield buster was introduced, they couldn’t function without the shields, so they moved on from this game (notice some bubble-loving forum members disappearing?). This is good example of letting the problem spiralling out of control. Sure, I don’t miss these bubble lovers since they are ruining the fun anyway. But with most of the legit teams leaving, we are left with only cheaters and feeders to fight. I had never fought so many cheaters before. Imagine fighting 5 cheater teams consecutively at 5000th place. That’s how bad it is.

Now with mostly cheaters and feeders populating this game, EA’s bottomline must be greatly affected. But when one lose the customers, nothing much can be done to woo them back, especially for mobile games. EA should have listened to us instead of regarding us as noises.