Come on now devs, the 5 a day hard node attempts is bad enough but to only be able to net 1 shard a day(sometimes none) without crystals is rediculous. If you played everyday and spent 100(20x5) energy it would take 330 days to unlock a single character at 7*. That seems awfully long to unlock a single character. Especially when you typically have to have 5 to make a team. So a full five, farmed one at time would take 1650 days. That's 4.52 years to get a squad of your favorite or needed characters. Grinds are one thing but this is just dumb. I'm not completely f2p so my grind is cut in half and it's still crazy time for a full team 2.26 years. At the rate in which you release content and new characters we are always behind because of the limitations you put on the game and farming. I not asking to instantly get the latest and greatest but just make it reasonable to farm heros. This comment is even excluding legendary content, which is fine. Just make the grind more feasible. I started playing while it was 8 a day and character farming was reasonable. I spent more money then then I do now and I sure others would agree. Hard to attract and retain new players when you can't get your favorite content for years.

While true you can farm multiple characters at once. I am merely pointing out the rediculous amount of time it takes to farm in this game. Neither are unjustified nor pumped up and a fair amount of heros there is only a single hard node to farm. Limited characters have multiple nodes but I appreciate the input. At a single shard a day which is roughly a 5x20 for ls/ds hard node 20% drop rate it would take you 330 days. The math is hardly flawed for a single run through. Your assumptions are that rng will be favorable to reduce that time by getting more shards in 5 attempts. I however in my experience take a more pessimistic approach since the devs leave the drop rate so low anyway and like to limit the pace of the game. As a side note you feel that 200 days by your own calculations is equitable or reasonable time for a single character? This IMO takes away from the experience of the game and game play. Especially considering all of the various factions that are possible and needed to attain any goals in the game?

"trooper521;c-1859374" wrote:Are you sure about that? Is it documented somewhere by the devs or are you just saying that.It's documented by many many players who have actually tracked drop rates over significant periods of time/attempts and under varying circumstances.

"trooper521;c-1859383" wrote:So again single player data not indicative of the actual programmed drop rate. Hardly a large enough sample size to verify your statement.Uh... you have no idea what the sample size is. This was a group effort among a very large number of players to track the drop rate. It's far more verified than the nonsense assumptions in your OP.

@EventineElessedil I think many of us agree that those farms are too long, which is why we refresh attempts and spend crystals daily to shorten them. Most new character releases come with 50 free shards, so at 15 attempts per day (75 crystals) you're looking at ~36 days to six star a character (180 shards averaging five per day) and an additional 20 days to seven star it. So, about two months of dedicated farming. I think it's up to the individual user as to whether or not that's a quality experience.As for @trooper521 - I didn't defend anything, I just pointed out that your math was off and gave you the actuals. If you feel that the experience is crap, then you're under no obligation to play a free game. I just wanted to make sure you understood the truth of hard node farming and could plan accordingly. And yes, full disclosure, I think seven months is ridiculous which is why I refresh attempts if I'm actually hard node farming a targeted character - because 75 crystals for 10 chances at a shard is less than the 80 crystals that shard would cost me in shipments.If you don't believe the quoted drop rate:https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/196365/new-old-republic-characters-drop-rates-day-28-completed/p1andhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/b3ak6v/darth_revan_toon_drop_rates/

There's no reason to farm them one at a time though. And there are other farming locations besides hard nodes.

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chriskiser
6 years ago
"kello_511;c-1859409" wrote:
Also another flaw:

If you are farming 5 toons from hard nodes, the drop from 8 attempts to 5 changes nothing. It just means that your energy is spread out among more toons each day.
If you are only using free energy (I think that’s 375/day), then you are doing 18 battles/day (at 20 energy each).

With 5 attempts/day instead of 8, that means that you are farming 5+5+5+3 (4 different toons) instead of 8+8+2 (3 different toons).
Either way, you will still get the same number of shards each day just spread out differently.
18 attempts x drop rate = x shards/ day, regardless of whether they are for the same toon or not.
And since you are apparently only farming the teams that have every toon in hard nodes, it changes nothing for you.

I believe that what he is referring to is one specific toon. How long does it take to get Bossik to seven star and so forth. I've been doing all I can to get him there. I'm not far away. But, I'm putting in my first five attempts and getting 0-1 shard a day on the first five attempts. I'm even using Crystal's to refresh the attempts. Then I'm lucky to get 1-2 shards in that 5 attempts. Then I go for the third round of five which by now I've had to refresh my energy as well. This is when I usually get 2-3 shards. I feel like I have to spend quite a bit to get that characters shard drop rate to start coming up to the 30% range. With the Chewbacca event coming up, the grind is real.
imageryking
6 years ago
The drop rates are ridiculous and that 33% drop rate ppl talk about all the time is huge BS!!! it takes way to long to farm and mod and aquire gears and ability mats for just 1 toon nevermind 5, generally by the time you are able to build up a squad to participate in a legendary event that toon and the 5 toons that lt took to get that elite character are all pretty much obsolete cuz they've introduced a new meta toon and squad!!
murderhound
6 years ago
I wonder if someone would be able to humor me with some type of reporting from the entire base rather than rely on statistical samples.
Drazhar91
6 years ago
Please keep in mind that whales are getting very sensitive about how the game is evolving before posting such complaints. They're in complete denial towards the fact that they have competitive rosters only because they spend with absolutely 0 skills and reasoning involved.
homerjsolo
6 years ago
"Drazhar;c-1920329" wrote:
Please keep in mind that whales are getting very sensitive about how the game is evolving before posting such complaints. They're in complete denial towards the fact that they have competitive rosters only because they spend with absolutely 0 skills and reasoning involved.

What are you talking about?! This is a drop rate thread. What does that have to do with whales and how competitive their rosters are?

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