20m Difference between Guilds matched in TW

"Whatelse73;c-1420173" wrote:
Matching is determined by the "participating" guild power, not how much the guild has total. So you "should" be fine in this one. Good luck.

This isn't actually true. I had this confirmed by the Devs. So god knows why they pair up the way they do. When we were a 40MIL guild, we were paired up against a 60MIL guild. Which is 50%!!! Joke

"Nikoms565;c-1420281" wrote:
This was posted in another thread, but bears repeating...

CG_Kozispoon wrote: »
The Active GP bracket only determines the rewards for the guild. This does not factor into matchmaking.

Maybe opening this up a little would help? How are the GP differences explained? There are so many examples.

Sorry if I don’t just take their word for it. Why not just let both sides know each others’ available GP’s?

"BosshTheUsurper;c-1421352" wrote:

"Whatelse73;c-1420173" wrote:
Matching is determined by the "participating" guild power, not how much the guild has total. So you "should" be fine in this one. Good luck.

This isn't actually true. I had this confirmed by the Devs. So god knows why they pair up the way they do. When we were a 40MIL guild, we were paired up against a 60MIL guild. Which is 50%!!! Joke

Kozi said that the brackets don't factor into matchmaking, as in you will not necessarily be paired against someone in the same rewards bracket. That doesn't mean GP is irrelevant to matchmaking. If it were you'd see yourself paired against 120m gp guilds, and that isn't happening. If they had fewer participating members then their active GP wasn't necessarily 60m either.

I don't understand that people can't win. All it takes is a little bit of coordination. I'm currently in a 50 man guild with about 52m GP, and each TW we usually get about 30-35 participants. Every TW we have been matched up against guilds with 10 - 20m GP more than us. Out of the 12 or so TWs we've had we have only lost 2 of them. The second TW we lost because we were still trying to find out the best strategy, and the other loss was by literally 10 points. Ever since then, we have had a winning streak and it looks like it won't stop if we keep going by our simple strategy.

If you are in a guild that can't coordinate and is always losing, you need to take a good hard look at yourselves instead of blaming the matchmaking.

"Liath;c-1423299" wrote:

"TheChampionBum;c-1423204" wrote:
Out of the 12 or so TWs we've had we have only lost 2 of them.

This is TW #7.

Clearly I haven't been keeping track lol but my earlier points still stand. Coordination is key.

21 million gp gap right now. There’s no way you can convince me that the over/under 6k toon total can make up a gap like that. That doesn’t even make sense considering players with that much gp will generally have more toons over 6k than players with less gp. We also have 48 members signed up to their 50. Good times!

"Bulldog1205;c-1434255" wrote:
I’m guessing in the vast majority of these complaints the problem is that there isn’t actually a GP difference. Either you are looking at the wrong guild on SWGOH.gg or that guild recently changed significantly and it hasn’t been reflected on the website yet. With only 2 hours to make roster moves there can be huge guild changes in a very short amount of time right before TW start.

Nope the matching just sucks. Our last tw we matched up against a guild with ~20 million gp more than us. Was 45(us) versus 41, they intentionally excluded all of their low gp players so they would get into a lower bracket. The is no way a 4 player difference accounted for 20m gp, especially considering that they only left out their low gp players. We aren't perfect and have won several tw already, but we didn't stand a chance in this one.

"prime311;c-1435177" wrote:

"Bulldog1205;c-1434255" wrote:
I’m guessing in the vast majority of these complaints the problem is that there isn’t actually a GP difference. Either you are looking at the wrong guild on SWGOH.gg or that guild recently changed significantly and it hasn’t been reflected on the website yet. With only 2 hours to make roster moves there can be huge guild changes in a very short amount of time right before TW start.

Nope the matching just sucks. Our last tw we matched up against a guild with ~20 million gp more than us. Was 45(us) versus 41, they intentionally excluded all of their low gp players so they would get into a lower bracket. We aren't perfect and have won several tw already, but we didn't stand a chance in this one.

It's more than just GP for matching, keep that in mind.

"Kyno;c-1435180" wrote:


It's more than just GP for matching, keep that in mind.

Not sure what you are getting at. I really don't care what they are using to match. I was pointing out that there are a ton of matches that are completely and obviously one sided, so much so that you have virtually no chance of winning, so these stories aren't just made up......sometimes the matchmaking is just really bad.

"prime311;c-1435218" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1435180" wrote:


It's more than just GP for matching, keep that in mind.

Not sure what you are getting at. I really don't care what they are using to match. I was pointing out that there are a ton of matches that are completely and obviously one sided, so much so that you have virtually no chance of winning, so these stories aren't just made up......sometimes the matchmaking is just really bad.

I'm sure you've had your fair sure of matches where it was your guild that was the much stronger guild when it came to the matchmaking. The odds of guilds always being the weaker guild is slim. That being said, you win some and you lose some. No one gets first place by just showing up.