3vs3 GAC really?

"harvestmouse;c-2356289" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2356280" wrote:
Your analogy's purpose was that 3v3 is something we would have no way of planning for that is suddenly being sprung on us.

Sorry for the confusion, but this was not my intention with the analogy.

As you've said, we've played 3v3 before and can plan for it. I'm ok with playing 3v3, I don't like it that much, but I don't despise it once we get going.

My analogy was all about the league/division system we have now. I believe in the system and to make it work you need to finely hone the divisional balance.

So we've been playing for a few months now and have a skill rating bases on our 5v5 performances. Now, we're going to play comparable players (5v5) in 3v3. This will mix up the skill ratings and then we'll go back to 5v5.....

If they want to start again with skill points for 3v3 I wouldn't like it but fine. However to continue into 3v3 using our 5v5 skill points rating, totally mess it up, then go back to 3v3 totally devalues the system we've been working hard to form.

My analogy was purely based on the league system.

The football league formed divisions using 11 a side (11 v 11) matches. Over time teams went up and down divisions until they were in divisions with other teams of a comparable skill level.

Then one day the Football league said 'hey this season we're going to play 5 a side (5v5) not 11 a side. Comparable skill level then goes right out the window.

This would be plain daft in my opinion and that was my analogy.

At least with 3 ship fleets on defence that will be a constant from now on. Where as we'll be swapping from 3v3 to 5v5 and eternally upset the league/division/skill rating balance.

Frankly I don't see it being any more upset than it currently is by so many players signing up, not participating, and artificially inflating their opponents. My alt is 4.7 mil and faced a 7 mil account that had 3 GLs (alt has 1 r7 SLK). Every toon they placed on defense was purple gear or g12 max with 1 exception. Relic bossk leading their BH in the back row. Only attacked me 1 time to get participation banners. He's inflated that account's skill rating by his refusal to participate. The kicker? It was the battle for 1st place in the round so he did participate in other battles. My alt runs a starter guild, of newer players up to 2-3 mil gp or so. And those players routinely experience those mismatches where the higher GP player just gives them the win by not participating. They get promoted and promoted, then get smacked into oblivion by players that are much larger than them but do participate.

Therefore you could make the argument that the skill rating system isn't working properly to create balance in the first place (a topic for another thread). But I don't buy into the notion that it will be that fundamentally different in terms of participation. We have so many ppl who don't participate NOW that a few dozen or even few thousand who don't play bc they hate 3v3 won't make that much of an impact. How many ppl complain about 3v3 but will end up playing anyway cuz they don't want to drop out of their divisions? Alot of them.

tl,dr- More ppl dislike GAC as a whole than dislike 3v3 specifically and if ppl choose to plummet down the rankings bc they don't like 3v3, that's their fault not CG's or the system's. And I say that as someone who doesn't like the new GAC system :joy: 3v3 isn't so different from 5v5 that it will hinder someone's ability to play simply bc it's 3v3. Apathy will be the more likely cause.