3vs3 GAC really?

"StarSon;c-2356036" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2356035" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2355874" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2355870" wrote:

"FurytheOriginal;c-2355868" wrote:
3v3 for GAC no longer makes sense since there are characters that require 5 members to operate properly including their GAC Omnicrons

Starkiller, for example, is broken in 3v3

1) he's the only one :joy:
2) CG said they'd fix his kit for 3v3

Sure they said they would, but now we have a date and no info on how it will be fixed.

Shouldnt they wait till they fix it to announve 3v3?

If it were any company but CG, the logical assumption would be that the fix is in tomorrow's update, and that's why they can now do 3v3. But, CG gonna CG.

Simple post from @CG_Tusken_Meathead would resolve it pretty easily.

Come on CG, lets hear it

A lack of a post generates more content.

"ShaggyB;c-2356038" wrote:

"StarSon;c-2356036" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2356035" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2355874" wrote:

"ShaggyB;c-2355870" wrote:

"FurytheOriginal;c-2355868" wrote:
3v3 for GAC no longer makes sense since there are characters that require 5 members to operate properly including their GAC Omnicrons

Starkiller, for example, is broken in 3v3

1) he's the only one :joy:
2) CG said they'd fix his kit for 3v3

Sure they said they would, but now we have a date and no info on how it will be fixed.

Shouldnt they wait till they fix it to announve 3v3?

If it were any company but CG, the logical assumption would be that the fix is in tomorrow's update, and that's why they can now do 3v3. But, CG gonna CG.

Simple post from @CG_Tusken_Meathead would resolve it pretty easily.

Come on CG, lets hear it

you've been around long enough to know he can't post until CG's lawyers say he can.

"zatho;c-2356028" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2356027" wrote:
... but imagine if you'd said 5v5 instead of 3v3. You'd be laughed out of here. :joy: You lose crystals all the time by making the wrong decisions in GAC. That's an element of all PVP gameplay.

Yeah, but we know 5v5 since our first battle in swgoh. Teams of five are used in many game modes. But there is no place in game where we can practice 3v3 fights. The only battles we can play that mode are in GAC and thus directly linked to the crystal income

We know there's no sandbox. We know we're not getting one. CG has explicitly said so. There's no money in it for them.

There's no place to practice alot of things in-game. Omicrons. GL rock-paper-scissors without blowing tickets on it. All this talk of practicing but you do realize your opponent is in the same boat as you are? So there's no unfair advantage.

There's more incentive to sign up and just do one battle now though.

I'd like 6v6 with 2 leader abilities to see what fun teams people can come up with. The catch would be you need to set the same number of defenses as your currently do in 5v5 forcing you to go a bit deeper into your roster.

"Jakdnels;c-2356121" wrote:

"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

But it's playing basketball on a baseball field

Nah, it's more like playing basketball with a soccer ball.

"Looooki;c-2356109" wrote:

"Obi_six_Kenobi;c-2355851" wrote:
I’m somewhat new to GAC, I hear a lot of people saying the don’t like 3v3. But I haven’t heard anyone explain why. Can someone please explain what it is about 3v3 that bothers many people?

In a nut shell, everything we know of 5v5 does not work on 3v3

Some issues include:
- Some leadership requires 5 toons. They are almost useless in 3v3
- Some TM teams works well for 5v5 (imp troopers), but lack TM gain / damage in 3v3
- Generally 3v3 forces teams to reduce their overall damage, making GL counter non viable or can only be countered with GL

TLDR: the game is designed for 5v5. 3v3 just thrpw things off balance

- except CG said they would update those leaders and uniques before the next run of 3v3. (assuming nothing changed)
- its almost like there is a different meta and some teams become worse while others shine better.
- yet again its like its a different meta where some teams don't have as much damage their dynamic changes, but yes it does make countering GLs harder overall. i agree that part has major flaws

"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:

"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:

"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

To be fair there was a teaser for 3v3 in event calendar, but no announcement yet. We don't know for sure if it will use the same skill value. However I believe so.

"harvestmouse;c-2356212" wrote:

"InyakSolomon88;c-2356171" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:

"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:

"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:

"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful. But that's par for the course in the forums. Analogies are always awful.

I'm not sure what is with this small band of you guys trying mark your territory on the forums. It's like you don't read the posts at all, and have already decided what you wanted to say. Is it like a 'CG hears the loudest voice' type thing? And oh look, it's the same group of cronies liking your post. The same ones who do the exact same thing. If you want the forums to yourselves why not say it?

You like 3v3 and you want 3v3, I get it.

However,

I wrote: (And I'm paraphrasing) 'I don't think 3v3 is a good idea, due to the new divisional/match making system.

You wrote: 3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful.

3v3 hasn't existed under the new divisional situation, making your quip pointless. What was the point of quoting me apart from marking your territory?

You missed your analogy there which I was responding to. Did you forget about the analogy? Your entire post reads like no one in GAC has ever played 3v3 before. Your analogy's purpose was that 3v3 is something we would have no way of planning for that is suddenly being sprung on us. Which is not only not true, but frankly it would be exceptionally poor planning on your part as CG has always indicated 3v3 would return. First in their posts about new GAC (3v3 on hold until they work out the kinks of 5v5 and deal with Starkiller's specific 5 member team requirement) and in the update to the GAC UI which explicitly has a 3v3 section that you HAD to have seen when you set your 5v5 defense and that CG will continue to alert you is empty thanks to a red dot that won't go away until you fill it.

I stand by my "quip". Your analogy was awful. It's also completely out of place. Even if you only meant the *new* GAC, you're basing your "this is how it has worked" assertion on a system that CG newly established not terribly long ago and have been altering since establishing it. As an example- for Kyber players, this GAC round and the previous ones under the new system are hugely different with the advent of 3 fleets on defense. That was a massive impact in almost all of my matches.