Abusing arena with discord

"chuckrambo;c-2285448" wrote:

"WookieWookie;c-2285429" wrote:
Shard chats make everyone's clinb easier and cost everyone fewer crystals in refreshes. This just seems like 'good communication' and 'efficiency,' not 'abuse,' maybe try having some perspective and play nice? It's just unnecessary and the most inefficient odd flex to climb 4+ hours before your PO anyway.

It makes the climb easier if you are in the shard chat, but not necessarily "everyone's climb".

If you are on the hit list then you can keep refreshing as much as you like but will get pulled back around your PO.

Perhaps perspective from other angles is needed?

Shard chats work because they need to limit their members and create a core - whether the other players 'play nice' or not does not usually matter.

The assumption they need to be closed to work is incorrect. The larger they are the more effective it is. The larger the "hit list" the less effective it is.

The only goal is to get every the best PO without unnecessarily pushing someone back, anything other than that starts to cost you crystals, which is bad.

CG has refused to comment on this. They could change the ToS so it's no longer a problem. But effort.
It clearly states NO ANTI COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR. Cooperative behavior is the opposite of Competitive behavior. Locking people out for ~30 minutes in coordinated hits to prevent any non-shard mafia players from moving during payout is anti-competitive behavior. Using diplomacy to determine payout order is anti-competitive behavior. Players (and by extension shard mafias) do NOT own their shards.

BuT iTs In DiScOrD wHiCh Cg CaNt ReGuLaTe...
Again wrong, and let's use examples.
Companies utilize their Code of Ethics as a firing mechanic all the time. John Doe makes a racist slur on twitter or on a live video at the bar on Saturday night. John's boss fires him Monday morning for an Ethics violation. It is irrelevant that the behavior occurred off company property and time. The rule applies universally.
Another example. A high school football coach steals another team's playbook while out at the grocery store. Even though this occurs off school property, the local officials can declare that his team forfeits the game for violating the athletic association's rules. Again, location is irrelevant. Rules are rules.

We have several solutions to this problem.
Remove the anti-competitive behavior language because you don't enforce it.
Switch arena to a points based system rather than a simple ladder.
Allow for shard migration every 6 months to a shard of similar or older age to prevent advantages.
Actually enforce the ToS as stated and start punishing the anti-competitive behavior.

What will actually happen:
Keyboard warrior shard mafia dons will make snarky replies that fail to address the points laid out above.

Your solutions to the “problem” work against the best interest of the shard as a whole or don’t address the issue.

More competition means more refreshes and less crystals for everyone including yourself. Unless you’ve specifically done something to anger the shard. Then maybe you’ll need to spend less on refreshes.

Targeting individuals is so rarely done by most shards because it works against the goal of the shard for these reasons.

1) it takes coordination and the secondary goal of chats is to spend less time worrying about arena
2) it can cost crystals if you aren’t the max jump or if the individual hitting you isn’t in their climb window. The primary goal of chats is to maximize crystals.

I think those not in chats think all chat members only hit non chat members. This is just false. The majority of people I hit in my climb from 50-70 to 1st are other chat members. The number of people on my chats targeting list? Zero.

"Solus_Imperius;c-2285458" wrote:


BuT iTs In DiScOrD wHiCh Cg CaNt ReGuLaTe...

Actually enforce the ToS as stated and start punishing the anti-competitive behavior.

What could possibly go wrong?

If you’re shard chat won’t let you in, just make a second one with all the people that they’ve pushed out. Then slowly pick away at their members (if they’re really that mean, the group is bound to have weaknesses) and you’ll soon be the only one left. Be a more forgiving and inviting shard chat than they were, and problem solved. If you’re not willing to put in the work and coordination that the shard chat puts in every day, then maybe you don’t deserve a top spot.

"AlexanderG;c-2285368" wrote:


I wasn't allowed to join my shard chat but they did let me know who was climbing and when. We have an agreement to stay out of each others' way. Which is OK.

Lol why wouldn't you be able to join the chat at that point.

"TVF;c-2285370" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2285368" wrote:


I wasn't allowed to join my shard chat but they did let me know who was climbing and when. We have an agreement to stay out of each others' way. Which is OK.

Lol why wouldn't you be able to join the chat at that point.

No idea! They were going to add me into the Discord channel but I got down voted! Ah well.

"Shadow1989;c-2285375" wrote:
Whale harder

wrong

"Shadow1989;c-2285377" wrote:
In my situation, im always first and people beg me to join their chat.

Someone from that arena chat purposely snipe me before i get my slkr… so i join the chat and ask the 20+ of them to f off…

I'm going for him too

"Shadow1989;c-2285377" wrote:
In my situation, im always first and people beg me to join their chat.

Someone from that arena chat purposely snipe me before i get my slkr… so i join the chat and ask the 20+ of them to f off…

You're my hero right now

"Shadow1989;c-2285385" wrote:
For your case, i suggest you set your own bot so u know everyone payout.

Snipe 5mins your po. It is doable.

How to do it?