An easy fix to the GET1 disaster

I'm not trying to say that you don't get it and are blasphemous... It's, I'm wondering if you can see things from a perspective of players like myself, guilds like myself. And as far as how many are farming what? Ask them. I'm pretty much the only person who spends in my guild. Take a look. I have 12 G13.. the closest is 4?

"taquillasun;c-1978648" wrote:
I'm not trying to say that you don't get it and are blasphemous... It's, I'm wondering if you can see things from a perspective of players like myself, guilds like myself. And as far as how many are farming what? Ask them. I'm pretty much the only person who spends in my guild. Take a look. I have 12 G13.. the closest is 4?

Only 20 of your guild are listed, so I cant know by looking.

The statement that started this was that it is a 2 year farm based on the numbers from 0 and doing geo TB. I merely pointed out that it would be rare for a guild to be at the state where they are doing Geo tb and players dont have kne if not both of hoda or wampa started or done.

You are trying to state that you are a small guild, but will not define that so I have no bearing to see how that counters my statement. If you are going to talk about a none full guild as a small guild, then the lack of GET is in your hands, you could be earning more. Have you run the numbers on doing 1 geo and 1 both TB a month, and see how much it could benefit your guild to have the extra GET 1 income.

There are many factors that play into this scenario, and I still stand by the statement that it would be less than likely for a guild to be doing 2 geo TB a month and still have 0 wampa and 0 hoda. I will add that some of those scenarios where that may be the case there are likely to be other factors, such as a not full guild, a more casual stance on the game and commitment to the guild in general. At no point did I say this move doesnt hurt, and I dont think that hurt is limited in any way to anyone, regardless of the size of the guild. That store is a great resource for gear which is always in high demand.

I didn't read a single word of this thread but I'm guessing "disaster" is the usual forum hyperbole.

"Liath;c-1978622" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1978621" wrote:

"capifico22;c-1978565" wrote:

"APX_919;c-1978339" wrote:

"gflegui;c-1978319" wrote:
It was stated pretty clear that no new toons will be added to that store after Malak, or I just dreamed that!!!

You dreamed it. They said GW store, Fleet store and Arena store would have no new characters ever added. They did not state anything regarding GA store, Guild shop or GET stores.

too many people remember this post to have it be a coincidence

Found it. It's in the 8/1 Q&A:

Q: Will characters be added to the GAC store or as GAC rewards?

A: Cyanides - We don't have plans to add characters to the Championship Store. One thing we have noticed is that whenever we have gear and a character in the same Store, a majority of players will go for the character. This means that gear farming drastically slows down. We do this in the Guild Events Store (which was a strong internal debate), so I wouldn't want to also do this in the Championship Store.

That says the opposite of what people are claiming.

That's why I edited it to say never mind. In my head I thought we were talking about the GAC store for some reason.

Not my fault you caught it during the, like, 30 seconds it was up.

"Kyno;c-1978748" wrote:

"taquillasun;c-1978648" wrote:
I'm not trying to say that you don't get it and are blasphemous... It's, I'm wondering if you can see things from a perspective of players like myself, guilds like myself. And as far as how many are farming what? Ask them. I'm pretty much the only person who spends in my guild. Take a look. I have 12 G13.. the closest is 4?

Only 20 of your guild are listed, so I cant know by looking.

The statement that started this was that it is a 2 year farm based on the numbers from 0 and doing geo TB. I merely pointed out that it would be rare for a guild to be at the state where they are doing Geo tb and players dont have kne if not both of hoda or wampa started or done.

You are trying to state that you are a small guild, but will not define that so I have no bearing to see how that counters my statement. If you are going to talk about a none full guild as a small guild, then the lack of GET is in your hands, you could be earning more. Have you run the numbers on doing 1 geo and 1 both TB a month, and see how much it could benefit your guild to have the extra GET 1 income.

There are many factors that play into this scenario, and I still stand by the statement that it would be less than likely for a guild to be doing 2 geo TB a month and still have 0 wampa and 0 hoda. I will add that some of those scenarios where that may be the case there are likely to be other factors, such as a not full guild, a more casual stance on the game and commitment to the guild in general. At no point did I say this move doesnt hurt, and I dont think that hurt is limited in any way to anyone, regardless of the size of the guild. That store is a great resource for gear which is always in high demand.

I asked --stated twice - to re frame that. I took the avenue of a powerful guild which 30 stars in Geo tb is. It is.

Versus a guild say... doing less than half the available stars. That's not a ton of power is it?

So let's scratch small guild, and just talk about power in relation to Territory battles. Fair?

Your guild has some power. Period. Wow. 30 stars...

I don't think you've had to decide with constraints how you'd spend GET1 in some time. I am guessing you have a ton saved. Everyone farmed. Hey - that's fine. I'm not bemoaning you for being in a powerful guild.

But I'd venture to say, there are more guilds that don't hit 30 stars than those who do.

And thanks for acknowledging that it will hurt players and slow progress.

I'd like to force upon you that people should change the guilds they are in if they like the company and have put time and effort into the guild they have been in.

I'd like to see a drop in incentive to have players move to more powerful guilds to get GET1 for 1 toon. That should't ever be a consideration. Yuk. That's just horrible. No - No one would want that. Right? If avoidable?

And I'm case in point. I farmed hodo restlessly for like 8 months! Then I started on Wompa right away. (i had this idea that both of them will be needed for the next legendary iteration of Luke) I got to 60/100 before Malak was released. And yeah I broke off Wompa, decided to farm through the event. And I've gotten Malak to 65/100 - for a guild of my power, it's normal...

Here, if I look at my shard which I started in late 2016, I see a lot of Malaks at 6 stars -- A lot. So I know my pace isn't out of the norm.

Though, thank you for the response. I 'm not trying to be confrontational or adversarial. I just wanted to state my piece that not all guilds are blessed with tons of power. And that should be fine. And that - hey would it be so bad to not put a character behind currency that, isn['t always easy or plentiful for many. And that - don't put incentive to leave, and we shouldn't have to change as a guild for people to take part in a fun event just to complete an individual feat like this.

"Jarvind;c-1978784" wrote:

"Liath;c-1978622" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1978621" wrote:

"capifico22;c-1978565" wrote:

"APX_919;c-1978339" wrote:

"gflegui;c-1978319" wrote:
It was stated pretty clear that no new toons will be added to that store after Malak, or I just dreamed that!!!

You dreamed it. They said GW store, Fleet store and Arena store would have no new characters ever added. They did not state anything regarding GA store, Guild shop or GET stores.

too many people remember this post to have it be a coincidence

Found it. It's in the 8/1 Q&A:

Q: Will characters be added to the GAC store or as GAC rewards?

A: Cyanides - We don't have plans to add characters to the Championship Store. One thing we have noticed is that whenever we have gear and a character in the same Store, a majority of players will go for the character. This means that gear farming drastically slows down. We do this in the Guild Events Store (which was a strong internal debate), so I wouldn't want to also do this in the Championship Store.

That says the opposite of what people are claiming.

That's why I edited it to say never mind. In my head I thought we were talking about the GAC store for some reason.

Not my fault you caught it during the, like, 30 seconds it was up.

Not your fault that you got ninja'd? That's not how it works!

"Jarvind;c-1978784" wrote:

"Liath;c-1978622" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1978621" wrote:

"capifico22;c-1978565" wrote:

"APX_919;c-1978339" wrote:

"gflegui;c-1978319" wrote:
It was stated pretty clear that no new toons will be added to that store after Malak, or I just dreamed that!!!

You dreamed it. They said GW store, Fleet store and Arena store would have no new characters ever added. They did not state anything regarding GA store, Guild shop or GET stores.

too many people remember this post to have it be a coincidence

Found it. It's in the 8/1 Q&A:

Q: Will characters be added to the GAC store or as GAC rewards?

A: Cyanides - We don't have plans to add characters to the Championship Store. One thing we have noticed is that whenever we have gear and a character in the same Store, a majority of players will go for the character. This means that gear farming drastically slows down. We do this in the Guild Events Store (which was a strong internal debate), so I wouldn't want to also do this in the Championship Store.

That says the opposite of what people are claiming.

That's why I edited it to say never mind. In my head I thought we were talking about the GAC store for some reason.

Not my fault you caught it during the, like, 30 seconds it was up.

It’s also not my fault that I didn’t know you had already edited it when I responded. :P

"Kyno;c-1978497" wrote:

"HansSnah;c-1978479" wrote:

"StarSon;c-1978357" wrote:

"Xxthedudexx;c-1978309" wrote:
The GET1 decision makes no sense. This isn’t going to make them more money either, just upset guilds and players.

It makes tons of sense. They don't want everyone to 7* him right away, and it follows precedent. Just let this be a lesson to you: After you get GAS to 7*, hoard back up to 70k GET1 and don't let it fall below that so next time you can 7* him immediately like I can.

You are clearly not getting the big picture. GET1 is now required for Hoda, Wampa, Malak, and GAS. These four toons alone can only be completed through GET1 tokens. This means that something like 35000k GET1 (correct me if I'm wrong) are needed to farm just these 4 toons. How much do we get per month now with Geonosis on the board? Perhaps 15k (likely less). That's a straight 2 year farming operation just for those characters...! How can anyone think this is a great idea is beyond me?!?

It is unlikely that someone will not work on either (or both) wampa or hoda before getting to Geo TB, Hoth offers a lot more GET1 than Geo does. This doesnt change much, but it does mean that 2 years is the outside estimate and someone could choose to make it go faster...

Actually no. Anyone who has joined in last 2 years who doesnt have wampa etc now will likely never have them. I spent GET1 on gear so was late on malak to 7 (2 more TBs despite having 30k saved). Will finish him and start hording for GAS. No time for chars let alone gear. But CG likes it that way so you have to buy it.

You older players and CG have no idea about the newer playerbase. Anyone who lasts 3 months is a min maxer as this game is gonna weed everyone else out because u cant compete (even with your shardmates as they are alts or min maxers). And who plays to get beat out of the gate? They will be past Hoth as soon as possible even if only 7 star DS Geo. Of course if u really want something (e.g. Wampa) u can ignore everything better and focus on it. New players have no hope of being competitive and getting the old stuff. One or the other. I say that as one of the few exceptions, why will be clear in a couple of sentences.

11 month player at over 3.25 million gp, 1/1 daily arena, and kyber (by thousands) in div 4 (1 GAC in 5 1 in 4 and now 3 so you can sense how fast gp can acrue). Only missing 7* 3p0 from all events (and thousands from my pocketbook). All my shardmates are in same boat even if Div 8. No one would look at old stuff even NS (unless first arena team) as you have to stay close to meta to get crystals esp if f2p. That is bad and made worse by 5 star GET unlocks. So you either care and follow the narrow path or dont and get Wampa....

edit: you have one side in me and something completely diff in guy above me. No one newer is happy with this.

"TVF;c-1978805" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1978784" wrote:

"Liath;c-1978622" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-1978621" wrote:

"capifico22;c-1978565" wrote:

"APX_919;c-1978339" wrote:

"gflegui;c-1978319" wrote:
It was stated pretty clear that no new toons will be added to that store after Malak, or I just dreamed that!!!

You dreamed it. They said GW store, Fleet store and Arena store would have no new characters ever added. They did not state anything regarding GA store, Guild shop or GET stores.

too many people remember this post to have it be a coincidence

Found it. It's in the 8/1 Q&A:

Q: Will characters be added to the GAC store or as GAC rewards?

A: Cyanides - We don't have plans to add characters to the Championship Store. One thing we have noticed is that whenever we have gear and a character in the same Store, a majority of players will go for the character. This means that gear farming drastically slows down. We do this in the Guild Events Store (which was a strong internal debate), so I wouldn't want to also do this in the Championship Store.

That says the opposite of what people are claiming.

That's why I edited it to say never mind. In my head I thought we were talking about the GAC store for some reason.

Not my fault you caught it during the, like, 30 seconds it was up.

Not your fault that you got ninja'd? That's not how it works!

You must be new here. Nothing anyone does is ever their fault.

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