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"Nihion;c-2216144" wrote:"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?
I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.
On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.
Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.
But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.
I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.
I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.
So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.
Then why did Jango get the tag? He could be a foundling, but it didn’t look like he was actively following the creed of any Mandalorian group. If it was the same extremist group that Mando is a part of, then Jango would have shown he wasn’t following the creed the minute he removed his mask. I think that if one of them gets the tag, they both should. No offense intended Kyno, but I think that Mandalorians function differently than engineers in the sense that it’s part of your identity, not your profession. If it was part of your profession, it would probably limit Jango and Mando from being bounty hunters.
But you’re right, this probably will spawn lots of debate, as both sides have an argument to make.
Jengo was a foundling who presumably followed learned the creed, and followed that when he was a part of it as part of his belief or "who he was" at least at some point. Boba did not, or maybe I'm wrong on that, but his commitment seemed to be to himself and his life in the underworld he was a part of.
My point about the engineering is that learning the knowledge vs showing commitment to the path are different things.
"Iy4oy4s;c-2216148" wrote:"Kyno;c-2216138" wrote:"Nihion;c-2216126" wrote:
Should I share my theory?
I’ll share my theory: To me, everything about Boba in the Mandalorian pointed toward him betraying Mando. I thought he was going to pull some epic stuff in Episode 8 that would complicate the plot, like being with Moff Gideon, and that Windu would be the Jedi so that he and Boba could have a rematch. I thought I saw that narrative choice coming from a mile away, but when it didn’t happen, I was genuinely surprised and confused. Moral of the story, I thought that Boba was definitely not a Mandalorian after that, but if Jango counts, I don’t see why Boba shouldn’t. He seems to hold just as much honor as his father.
On that last point, if you are not from the planet, to be a Mandalorian you need to be following the creed.
Him showing that the armor was his fathers got him the armor.
But without following the creed I dont see how honor would make him a Mandalorian.
I can teach my son everything I learned when becoming an engineer, it doesnt make him an engineer.
I know he did cross paths and get taught the ways when he was younger, but that seemed to be him learning skills to survive in the underworld, not due to any commitment to the people/culture/creed, or even his father, which is what IMHO would be needed to be considered for the Mandalorian title.
So I can see why he didnt get the tag in game, but there is and can be a long debate on this topic, since there is a lot to unpack in his history.
Oh oh oh, this brings up an old debate I had somewhere on the forums about Jedi.
So, by your logic Kyno, do you think that Luke is a Jedi before his restarts the Order. By the time Luke comes around, the Jedi order is gone, so the way to become a Jedi is gone. Just because Yoda teaches him some stuff, that doesn’t mean he’s a Jedi, just as your son wouldn’t be an engineer.
But anyway, back in topic. I agree with your assessment of Boba...and by the looks of The Book of Boba Fett, he won’t be acting in the mando way anytime soon...but who knows.
He was following his path to become a jedi based on his beliefs, so yes he was a jedi, or on the path to be.
And there is the difference I was talking about, he wasnt learning from Yoda, just to learn skills (like I believe boba was), he was learning and building his knowledge to follow the path of belief, and therefore became a Jedi.
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