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LudoStrom's avatar
7 years ago

Asajj inconsistency

Previously it was stated that it is intentional that Asajj doesnt have SITH tag.
Now, she got a prestigious event called 'SITH AGENT'. The requirement is partly to defeat jedis.
The thing is that Asajj doesnt have SITH tag, so she cant be used in the Assault Battle alongside the other SITH&FIRST ORDER tagged units ergo, she cant kill jedi (I know she only have to be present at the battle and there are also many other places to kill jedi, but come on, this is a jedi slaughter event I am talking about and Asajj is a Jedi slaughterer)
Now the question rises again:
Is she a sith? If she is, why does not have she the SITH tag? (Obviously game balance reasons, I know, but the question still stands)
And if this is a post-sith era version of her, why does she have the outfit she wore at the Battle of Kamino, where she was present as the apprantice of Dookou?
Can we get a clarification on this?
And maybe, can we get her allowed to be used in the Places of Power assault battle (without adding her a SITH tag)?
  • being an agent for a police force doesn't mean you are a cop.

    so it doesn't really seem like a contradiction, she was an agent of the sith and not a sith.
  • "Kyno;c-1563349" wrote:
    being an agent for a police force doesn't mean you are a cop.

    so it doesn't really seem like a contradiction, she was an agent of the sith and not a sith.


    Then why is Ahsoka Fulcrum a rebel? She is also "just" an agent employed by the rebel alliance.

    If someone speaks like a sith, looks like a sith, was trained by a sith, acts like a sith, considers herself to be a sith and slaughters jedi like a sith, what is it?

    She is the apprantice of a sith apprantice.
    Like your (hypothetical) grandson is the son of your son. You are still one family.
  • I can understand Asajj not being considered a Sith, but where in Canon or Legends history is Savage ever 1 ?
    He was picked by Asajj, empowered by Talzin and sent to Dooku as a replacement for Asajj...making him an "agent" as well...nothing more.

    Unless, u consider his short time on Mandalore w/ his brother Maul b4 Sidious killed him. Was he considered an apprentice under Maul ?
  • "Poxx;c-1563751" wrote:
    I can understand Asajj not being considered a Sith, but where in Canon or Legends history is Savage ever 1 ?
    He was picked by Asajj, empowered by Talzin and sent to Dooku as a replacement for Asajj...making him an "agent" as well...nothing more.

    Unless, u consider his short time on Mandalore w/ his brother Maul b4 Sidious killed him. Was he considered an apprentice under Maul ?


    Good point

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/63251/asajj-was-never-a-sith-but-savage-was-quit-trying-to-make-her-a-sith
    This thread sheds some light on the topic as well. I guess it's due to each individual ideology needs and wants. Savage wanted to be a sith so he became one while asajj just wanted to he powerful or whatever. Regardless of their shared timelines
  • "First_but_66_Order;c-1563695" wrote:
    "Kyno;c-1563349" wrote:
    being an agent for a police force doesn't mean you are a cop.

    so it doesn't really seem like a contradiction, she was an agent of the sith and not a sith.


    Then why is Ahsoka Fulcrum a rebel? She is also "just" an agent employed by the rebel alliance.

    If someone speaks like a sith, looks like a sith, was trained by a sith, acts like a sith, considers herself to be a sith and slaughters jedi like a sith, what is it?

    She is the apprantice of a sith apprantice.
    Like your (hypothetical) grandson is the son of your son. You are still one family.


    She was trained by Sith to be an assassin of a Sith apprentice, not a Sith apprentice. She was trained to be a tool of the sith, not as "one of the family"

    And there are times where she doesnt consider herself a Sith. We dont have a timestamps on when each toon was from (but that would be nice, to help fill in backstory about why each toon is the way they are), but that timestamp would tell us why the devs gave her that tag from the description of why they tag toona we recieved earlier.

    I actually dont know much about ATF, so I cant really comment on her or how she would define herself.

    IMO I just dont think its inconsistent to consider her an agent.

    Also in your family definition it doesnt really capture the situation, because to be an apprentice you need a master, so the person under an apprentice isnt a true apprentice. But that's all just semantics.
  • "Kyno;c-1563845" wrote:
    "First_but_66_Order;c-1563695" wrote:
    "Kyno;c-1563349" wrote:
    being an agent for a police force doesn't mean you are a cop.

    so it doesn't really seem like a contradiction, she was an agent of the sith and not a sith.


    Then why is Ahsoka Fulcrum a rebel? She is also "just" an agent employed by the rebel alliance.

    If someone speaks like a sith, looks like a sith, was trained by a sith, acts like a sith, considers herself to be a sith and slaughters jedi like a sith, what is it?

    She is the apprantice of a sith apprantice.
    Like your (hypothetical) grandson is the son of your son. You are still one family.


    She was trained by Sith to be an assassin of a Sith apprentice, not a Sith apprentice. She was trained to be a tool of the sith, not as "one of the family"

    And there are times where she doesnt consider herself a Sith. We dont have a timestamps on when each toon was from (but that would be nice, to help fill in backstory about why each toon is the way they are), but that timestamp would tell us why the devs gave her that tag from the description of why they tag toona we recieved earlier.

    I actually dont know much about ATF, so I cant really comment on her or how she would define herself.

    IMO I just dont think its inconsistent to consider her an agent.

    Also in your family definition it doesnt really capture the situation, because to be an apprentice you need a master, so the person under an apprentice isnt a true apprentice. But that's all just semantics.


    In "Dark disciple" Obi-Wan and all the Jedi council agrees that Asajj was indeed a sith and war criminal.
    BTW the game version we have wears the Battle of Kamino outfit of her.
    (+ Background story: Dookou traind her to overthrow Sidious together at some point, but he failed his plan, then he was seeking for someone else who could help him with his plan, first Savage, then Quinan Vos both times with less success than with Asajj)
  • "ludwigsangina;c-1562963" wrote:
    SPOILER ALERT: don’t read further jntk my post if you haven’t seen SOLO








    Spoiler

    yeah asaj should get a sith tag. Also..... another sith in the ending of the movie solo should probably get a scoundrel tag as he is the leader of a gang faction...


    edit to add spoiler


    Totally agree