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Palanthrax
9 years ago

Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined

You maniacs. You blew it up. This scene was all I could think of last night:

http://i.imgur.com/A9DsJn5.gif

Yesterday, base stats mattered. Rey had 164 speed, QGJ had 145 speed, and these subtle differences in stats determined the order in which toons attacked, how they played. This is now completely irrelevant as mods determine speed and attacking order.

Yesterday, RG was a tank and Rey was a glass cannon with foresight for 1 round of protection. Now, RG has the health of the Rancor and Rey is a DPS tank. Protection was brought in to prevent toons from being one-shotted, protection is now rendered useless in many cases.

Yesterday, going from 5 stars to 7 stars made a significant difference to the performance of a toon. Now, the change is trivial compared to the effect of equipping mods.

Yesterday, going from gear 8 to gear 9 or 10 with hard-earned raid gear made a massive difference. Now, it's invalidated by ridiculously overpowered mods. Why grind gear when you can grind out some new mods? And who's to say your nemesis in the arena won't have better stats, due to a lucky RNG?

This isn't SWGOH anymore. If I'd just downloaded this today and seen the state of it, I would have uninstalled it immediately. As I write this, I still have a 5 star review on iTunes, despite all of my previous criticism - because despite everything I loved the game, I loved the gameplay, it was genuinely pleasurable to use the toons I put time and a truck-load of money into. I'm off to update my review after writing this.

The time I spent building a heroic P1 raid team to grind raid gear, the money I spent refreshing shipments for raid gear, the shard shop currency I just spent on raid gear during the last week, all of it feels like it was absolutely for nothing today.

I looked in mod shipments and I laughed, seriously, out loud. You have got to be kidding.

When I read the notes yesterday and I saw Cody, I practically had my credit card in my hand. I was ready to break my vow to never buy another chromium, because I thought he looked like a great toon. FORGET IT! There is no clone synergy anymore, there's just Rey with the power of 1,000 Jedi one-shotting everything in sight.

This was a Michael Bay style update, there were no subtle tweaks to existing character balance. This is the equivalent of moving from rifles and grenades to nuclear warheads.

I bought over 100 vaults. Just do the math. I'm a whale and I hate the update. I hate what you've done to this game. You've ruined it, you've blown it up, you've lost a customer. I'm giving this a week and then I'm walking away if nothing changes. I don't care how much I've spent, I'll write the whole lot of it off, I'm fully prepared to do so.

This was a big middle finger to every player who's supported this game, free or paid.
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  • Carth_Onassi1973's avatar
    Carth_Onassi1973
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago
    "Azertonn;547678" wrote:
    @Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


    To produce it, of course it it did. To make it live and watch the chaos that occurred because of it? A click of a button.

  • DarthxJay's avatar
    DarthxJay
    9 years ago
    "Azertonn;547678" wrote:
    @Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


    There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.
  • DarthPurgatory's avatar
    DarthPurgatory
    9 years ago
    +1 to all this,

    I'm a whale I've had my issues with the game but nothing I wasn't willing to grit my teeth for.

    Today I failed GW for the first time in months. I was only able to remove one toon from what appeared to be a fully modded and geared squad...Rey and RG eliminated my entire roster....I have just under 30 toons at some level of raid geared, maybe another near dozen in the 70s, and everyone beneath is trash.

    Rey and RG decimated everyone. Everyone. That has never happened even after their so-called GW tweak I was able to find a way. This right here? This is game-breaking and complete and utter Bravo Sierra. Yes...I had thrown mods on my A squad as well.

    Fix it or I'm done too. I was fully prepared to finish out GeoSpy tomorrow and by some Chromiums, but the wallet stays in my pocket until they comment on this situation.
  • SpeedRacerX01's avatar
    SpeedRacerX01
    9 years ago
    "Darth_Jay77;547689" wrote:
    "Azertonn;547678" wrote:
    @Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


    There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.

    You are thinking with your heart ( like most of us), but u should think with your head.

    We know, tired of knowing, that usually updates came with a lot of bugs. But this mod is not the case. Maybe a glitch here and there, but is fully working. Do u really believe devs didn't thought that upgrading 300% speed, health or damage would be "bad"?!

    Again bro, everyone is beeing naive. It's one of the biggest software company in the planet. Every step is carefully studied towards to grabing more money. They knew exactally what's going to happen. New SW game is coming soon, like EA does with every other game they produce, a new every year. This is just the final cash run.

    Unfortunately....
  • Carth_Onassi1973's avatar
    Carth_Onassi1973
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago
    @Azertonn I wanted to be clear about something: I loved this game. To the point where I played every day and stopped playing my other games because of it. I genuinely enjoyed it. I haven't commented negatively at all before now and even remained willfully ignorant when things got crazier and crazier.

    Still loved it.

    Now, when I first saw the mods I thought it was cool. A great way to toughen up toons that needed it; a "self-buff", if you will. We control who and how we upgrade them. So we run the mod nodes. No big deal. Then there are mod challenges, again, no big de... Wait, what? You need specific teams to farm these higher level mods? Which means you have to pump resources (that are already limited) into toons you aren't going to use on a routine basis? So we have no control after all.

    So now, I have to use my credits to upgrade toons for mod challenges, which takes away resources for me to mod my other toons, which makes me fall behind when I have to face a super Rey, rg, what have you, in GW or arena, and in turn, lose out on OTHER resources that would allow me to strengthen my team.

    I feel "bait and switched" due to that fact. It's not an improvement. And furthermore, if things will balance out, and everything will be the same again, why the power increase? It's going in circles , without addressing what others have been voicing for months: balance. It's a diversion all activity to farm these mods.

    just wanted to share. This post/thread was about being saddened that the game has gone in this direction. I'm not hating to hate. I hate "hating" this series of events.
  • DarthxJay's avatar
    DarthxJay
    9 years ago
    "SpeedRacer;547731" wrote:
    "Darth_Jay77;547689" wrote:
    "Azertonn;547678" wrote:
    @Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


    There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.

    You are thinking with your heart ( like most of us), but u should think with your head.

    We know, tired of knowing, that usually updates came with a lot of bugs. But this mod is not the case. Maybe a glitch here and there, but is fully working. Do u really believe devs didn't thought that upgrading 300% speed, health or damage would be "bad"?!

    Again bro, everyone is beeing naive. It's one of the biggest software company in the planet. Every step is carefully studied towards to grabing more money. They knew exactally what's going to happen. New SW game is coming soon, like EA does with every other game they produce, a new every yerar. This is just the final cash run.


    I wasn't referring to bugs from this update, but other existing issues.

    I'm not naive, I work in corporate marketing for the largest casino gaming corporation in the world so I get the business aspects. It is all about the bottom line and making your investors happy, but you need consistent customers to make that money. My experience also tells me that you must listen to your customers or you will fail. We take our customer feedback very seriously, especially the negative, and make decisions accordingly. There is an entire team allocated that spends 100% of their time reviewing customer feedback, evaluating it, and make suggestions for action to the appropriate leaders in our company. We may not listen to everything but when there is a seemingly large population that is unhappy about the same issue, we give it a serious look. I think there are some things EA does well but overall I think they've made some major mistakes with this game. Look at how many good mobile games have lasted for years. Do you see this game being around this time next year?
  • Drekulviin's avatar
    Drekulviin
    9 years ago
    've been playing this game since launch (november) i've grind my azz off everyday to get my toons up and strong , to get a big roster.....today a new whales with about one week of play can destroy my whole roster with a modded team of level 50 ,4* ,G3. it's outrageous ! , yes the update has some fun features like easier story modes , challenges , cantina battle (if you have mods) but you will get destroy in Gw and Arena.

    the gap was close for F2P vs P2P ...too close in the Devs opinion now we see the Grand Canyon between them.

    i have two accounts , one i din't play much and had nice ressources in it but only level 72
    since i had lots of resources i spend on mods and went from Arena level 2500 to 700 in 5 battles (fully modded team) with a team of level 69-72 ,G7-8, 5 to 7*. i was able to beat level 80 G9 with ease. i know it won't last long , i must admit it was fun for the moment to test those mods. but with an account level 80 in which i spent months on and struggle with credits now i will simply look has a noob and get wasted by fully mods

    this shit ruined the game , it's not an update at all , it's a whole new game !!

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You blew it up. This scene was all I could think of last night:

http://i.imgur.com/A9DsJn5.gif

Yesterday, base stats mattered. Rey had 164 speed, QGJ had 145 speed, and these subtle differences in stats determined the order in which toons attacked, how they played. This is now completely irrelevant as mods determine speed and attacking order.

Yesterday, RG was a tank and Rey was a glass cannon with foresight for 1 round of protection. Now, RG has the health of the Rancor and Rey is a DPS tank. Protection was brought in to prevent toons from being one-shotted, protection is now rendered useless in many cases.

Yesterday, going from 5 stars to 7 stars made a significant difference to the performance of a toon. Now, the change is trivial compared to the effect of equipping mods.

Yesterday, going from gear 8 to gear 9 or 10 with hard-earned raid gear made a massive difference. Now, it's invalidated by ridiculously overpowered mods. Why grind gear when you can grind out some new mods? And who's to say your nemesis in the arena won't have better stats, due to a lucky RNG?

This isn't SWGOH anymore. If I'd just downloaded this today and seen the state of it, I would have uninstalled it immediately. As I write this, I still have a 5 star review on iTunes, despite all of my previous criticism - because despite everything I loved the game, I loved the gameplay, it was genuinely pleasurable to use the toons I put time and a truck-load of money into. I'm off to update my review after writing this.

The time I spent building a heroic P1 raid team to grind raid gear, the money I spent refreshing shipments for raid gear, the shard shop currency I just spent on raid gear during the last week, all of it feels like it was absolutely for nothing today.

I looked in mod shipments and I laughed, seriously, out loud. You have got to be kidding.

When I read the notes yesterday and I saw Cody, I practically had my credit card in my hand. I was ready to break my vow to never buy another chromium, because I thought he looked like a great toon. FORGET IT! There is no clone synergy anymore, there's just Rey with the power of 1,000 Jedi one-shotting everything in sight.

This was a Michael Bay style update, there were no subtle tweaks to existing character balance. This is the equivalent of moving from rifles and grenades to nuclear warheads.

I bought over 100 vaults. Just do the math. I'm a whale and I hate the update. I hate what you've done to this game. You've ruined it, you've blown it up, you've lost a customer. I'm giving this a week and then I'm walking away if nothing changes. I don't care how much I've spent, I'll write the whole lot of it off, I'm fully prepared to do so.

This was a big middle finger to every player who's supported this game, free or paid.","body@stringLength":"2952","rawBody":"You maniacs. You blew it up. This scene was all I could think of last night:

http://i.imgur.com/A9DsJn5.gif

Yesterday, base stats mattered. Rey had 164 speed, QGJ had 145 speed, and these subtle differences in stats determined the order in which toons attacked, how they played. This is now completely irrelevant as mods determine speed and attacking order.

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Yesterday, going from gear 8 to gear 9 or 10 with hard-earned raid gear made a massive difference. Now, it's invalidated by ridiculously overpowered mods. Why grind gear when you can grind out some new mods? And who's to say your nemesis in the arena won't have better stats, due to a lucky RNG?

This isn't SWGOH anymore. If I'd just downloaded this today and seen the state of it, I would have uninstalled it immediately. As I write this, I still have a 5 star review on iTunes, despite all of my previous criticism - because despite everything I loved the game, I loved the gameplay, it was genuinely pleasurable to use the toons I put time and a truck-load of money into. I'm off to update my review after writing this.

The time I spent building a heroic P1 raid team to grind raid gear, the money I spent refreshing shipments for raid gear, the shard shop currency I just spent on raid gear during the last week, all of it feels like it was absolutely for nothing today.

I looked in mod shipments and I laughed, seriously, out loud. You have got to be kidding.

When I read the notes yesterday and I saw Cody, I practically had my credit card in my hand. I was ready to break my vow to never buy another chromium, because I thought he looked like a great toon. FORGET IT! There is no clone synergy anymore, there's just Rey with the power of 1,000 Jedi one-shotting everything in sight.

This was a Michael Bay style update, there were no subtle tweaks to existing character balance. This is the equivalent of moving from rifles and grenades to nuclear warheads.

I bought over 100 vaults. Just do the math. I'm a whale and I hate the update. I hate what you've done to this game. You've ruined it, you've blown it up, you've lost a customer. I'm giving this a week and then I'm walking away if nothing changes. I don't care how much I've spent, I'll write the whole lot of it off, I'm fully prepared to do so.

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\"Azertonn;547678\" wrote:
@Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


To produce it, of course it it did. To make it live and watch the chaos that occurred because of it? A click of a button.

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\"Azertonn;547678\" wrote:
@Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-07-13T11:40:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-07-13T11:40:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4160337/message:4160430","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160431":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4160431","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4160431":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:225137"},"id":"message:4160431","revisionNum":1,"uid":4160431,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4160337"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4160337"},"subject":"Re: Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160431"},"body":"This. +1,000,000","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"16","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-07-13T11:41:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-07-13T11:41:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4160337/message:4160431","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:197125":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:197125","uid":197125,"login":"DarthPurgatory","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-01-26T08:32:36.505-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1721239524000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:197125"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160432":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4160432","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4160432":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:197125"},"id":"message:4160432","revisionNum":1,"uid":4160432,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4160337"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4160337"},"subject":"Re: Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160432"},"body":"+1 to all this,

I'm a whale I've had my issues with the game but nothing I wasn't willing to grit my teeth for.

Today I failed GW for the first time in months. I was only able to remove one toon from what appeared to be a fully modded and geared squad...Rey and RG eliminated my entire roster....I have just under 30 toons at some level of raid geared, maybe another near dozen in the 70s, and everyone beneath is trash.

Rey and RG decimated everyone. Everyone. That has never happened even after their so-called GW tweak I was able to find a way. This right here? This is game-breaking and complete and utter Bravo Sierra. Yes...I had thrown mods on my A squad as well.

Fix it or I'm done too. I was fully prepared to finish out GeoSpy tomorrow and by some Chromiums, but the wallet stays in my pocket until they comment on this situation.
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\"Darth_Jay77;547689\" wrote:
\"Azertonn;547678\" wrote:
@Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.

You are thinking with your heart ( like most of us), but u should think with your head.

We know, tired of knowing, that usually updates came with a lot of bugs. But this mod is not the case. Maybe a glitch here and there, but is fully working. Do u really believe devs didn't thought that upgrading 300% speed, health or damage would be \"bad\"?!

Again bro, everyone is beeing naive. It's one of the biggest software company in the planet. Every step is carefully studied towards to grabing more money. They knew exactally what's going to happen. New SW game is coming soon, like EA does with every other game they produce, a new every year. This is just the final cash run.

Unfortunately....
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Still loved it.

Now, when I first saw the mods I thought it was cool. A great way to toughen up toons that needed it; a \"self-buff\", if you will. We control who and how we upgrade them. So we run the mod nodes. No big deal. Then there are mod challenges, again, no big de... Wait, what? You need specific teams to farm these higher level mods? Which means you have to pump resources (that are already limited) into toons you aren't going to use on a routine basis? So we have no control after all.

So now, I have to use my credits to upgrade toons for mod challenges, which takes away resources for me to mod my other toons, which makes me fall behind when I have to face a super Rey, rg, what have you, in GW or arena, and in turn, lose out on OTHER resources that would allow me to strengthen my team.

I feel \"bait and switched\" due to that fact. It's not an improvement. And furthermore, if things will balance out, and everything will be the same again, why the power increase? It's going in circles , without addressing what others have been voicing for months: balance. It's a diversion all activity to farm these mods.

just wanted to share. This post/thread was about being saddened that the game has gone in this direction. I'm not hating to hate. I hate \"hating\" this series of events.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-07-13T11:55:31.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-07-13T11:55:31.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4160337/message:4160434","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160435":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4160435","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4160435":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:216484"},"id":"message:4160435","revisionNum":1,"uid":4160435,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4160337"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4160337"},"subject":"Re: Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160435"},"body":"
\"SpeedRacer;547731\" wrote:
\"Darth_Jay77;547689\" wrote:
\"Azertonn;547678\" wrote:
@Carth_Onassi1973 to be fair I am sure it took more than one day to produce this update.


There's no doubt that the development team put a lot of work into this update, definitely more than one day. What they didn't do it think about the consequences and actual impact to the game and community and as usual, no actual pre-testing. There are so many things needed to be fixed in this game like characters that are actually broken and don't work, characters that need to be re-tooled like JKA did that they have enough to work on and add value to this game. Why couldn't they just add the Grievous raid, improve GW, fix and re-tool some of the other characters and call it a day. This was not needed.

You are thinking with your heart ( like most of us), but u should think with your head.

We know, tired of knowing, that usually updates came with a lot of bugs. But this mod is not the case. Maybe a glitch here and there, but is fully working. Do u really believe devs didn't thought that upgrading 300% speed, health or damage would be \"bad\"?!

Again bro, everyone is beeing naive. It's one of the biggest software company in the planet. Every step is carefully studied towards to grabing more money. They knew exactally what's going to happen. New SW game is coming soon, like EA does with every other game they produce, a new every yerar. This is just the final cash run.


I wasn't referring to bugs from this update, but other existing issues.

I'm not naive, I work in corporate marketing for the largest casino gaming corporation in the world so I get the business aspects. It is all about the bottom line and making your investors happy, but you need consistent customers to make that money. My experience also tells me that you must listen to your customers or you will fail. We take our customer feedback very seriously, especially the negative, and make decisions accordingly. There is an entire team allocated that spends 100% of their time reviewing customer feedback, evaluating it, and make suggestions for action to the appropriate leaders in our company. We may not listen to everything but when there is a seemingly large population that is unhappy about the same issue, we give it a serious look. I think there are some things EA does well but overall I think they've made some major mistakes with this game. Look at how many good mobile games have lasted for years. Do you see this game being around this time next year?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-07-13T12:01:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-07-13T12:01:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4160337/message:4160435","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:167701":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:167701","uid":167701,"login":"Mol_Eliza_99999","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-12-31T12:20:02.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1721239524000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:167701"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160436":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4160436","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4160436":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:167701"},"id":"message:4160436","revisionNum":1,"uid":4160436,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4160337"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4160337"},"subject":"Re: Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160436"},"body":"+1. On same boat, and agree with everything OP said","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"51","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-07-13T12:05:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2016-07-13T12:05:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:star-wars-galaxy-of-heroes-en/category:star-wars-games-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:swgoh-general-discussion-en/message:4160337/message:4160436","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:182775":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:182775","uid":182775,"login":"Drekulviin","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-02-06T14:51:58.091-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1721239561000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:182775"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160437":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4160437","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4160437":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:182775"},"id":"message:4160437","revisionNum":1,"uid":4160437,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4160337"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4160337"},"subject":"Re: Balance: Gone / Gear Grind: Wasted / Game: Ruined","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4160437"},"body":"'ve been playing this game since launch (november) i've grind my azz off everyday to get my toons up and strong , to get a big roster.....today a new whales with about one week of play can destroy my whole roster with a modded team of level 50 ,4* ,G3. it's outrageous ! , yes the update has some fun features like easier story modes , challenges , cantina battle (if you have mods) but you will get destroy in Gw and Arena.

the gap was close for F2P vs P2P ...too close in the Devs opinion now we see the Grand Canyon between them.

i have two accounts , one i din't play much and had nice ressources in it but only level 72
since i had lots of resources i spend on mods and went from Arena level 2500 to 700 in 5 battles (fully modded team) with a team of level 69-72 ,G7-8, 5 to 7*. i was able to beat level 80 G9 with ease. i know it won't last long , i must admit it was fun for the moment to test those mods. but with an account level 80 in which i spent months on and struggle with credits now i will simply look has a noob and get wasted by fully mods

this shit ruined the game , it's not an update at all , it's a whole new game 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