Barriss Offee Unique

"Pcx99;825749" wrote:
It's a bug. It will be fixed. Sinsce it's not in her leader it should work like echo. So either echo or barris is bugged.

It is not a bug, many other uniques persist after death, while other don't... There is no rule.. (Tusken shaman tm gain, gs Crit chance boost, etc...)

If anything as mentioned earlier, it should be stated correctly in the character ability's description, as it shows for GK for example

"CG_Conduit23;843886" wrote:
For better or worse, this was not intended and will be fixed soon. I wish the wording on Uniques was more consistent, but they should all turn off when defeated.

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It seems some of the masses may be happy though because it will tone down chirrut Baze combo.

"CG_Conduit23;843886" wrote:
For better or worse, this was not intended and will be fixed soon. I wish the wording on Uniques was more consistent, but they should all turn off when defeated.

What about people that spent 20 zeta and will get half of their investment gone... (Cause let's be honest, if that's the case bariss won't last more than a few rounds and then she looses her value)

At least offer possibility for those that zetaed her to get back the 20 zeta and 13 omega to reinvest in her if they still deam her skill to have enough value after your fix, or invest in others they think are more interesting post this change.

No zeta ability has been nerfed yet and if you go that way, you will
1) create mistrust and have angry people
2) penalize on a very hard to get resource a decent amount of people

So handle this correctly or don't change anything is really my feedback here.

If you change zeta abilities , make people have the choice to cancel their investment...

@CG_Conduit23

"Aero;845344" wrote:
Since it wasn't intended it needs to be fixed. Definitely a bit tricky since we've never had a fix (not a nerf) involving something as big an investment as a zeta upgrade.

A fix is a nerf if people invested given a set of parameters that were changed after (making the toon weaker).

One could think after the massive bariss nerf last year, we wouldn't want another bariss nerf creating too much issues now would we?

But you can call it however you want, bottom line is zeta investment shouldn't not be touched or if they are, ability to cancel them should be allowed or this puts a dangerous precedent.

And to be honest it's not only the zeta, I would never have maxed geared/level bariss (as in sure many other wouldn't) if it wasn't for that zeta.

Anyway if it happens I'm not in the worst position to adapt so it's not really about me, I'm just voicing out a concern about the precedent that would set and the anger many people would have, if that "fix" is not correctly done

"Maraxus;844001" wrote:

"CG_Conduit23;843886" wrote:
For better or worse, this was not intended and will be fixed soon. I wish the wording on Uniques was more consistent, but they should all turn off when defeated.

What about people that spent 20 zeta and will get half of their investment gone... (Cause let's be honest, if that's the case bariss won't last more than a few rounds and then she looses her value)

At least offer possibility for those that zetaed her to get back the 20 zeta and 13 omega to reinvest in her if they still deam her skill to have enough value after your fix, or invest in others they think are more interesting post this change.

No zeta ability has been nerfed yet and if you go that way, you will
1) create mistrust and have angry people
2) penalize on a very hard to get resource a decent amount of people

So handle this correctly or don't change anything is really my feedback here.

If you change zeta abilities , make people have the choice to cancel their investment...

@CG_Conduit23

I agree. If she must be nerfed unequipping her zeta and refunding the materials should be the minimum. If that's not possible, ten zetas will take off the sting.

That said, having used barris and having fought against her I actually find her quite balanced so long as you bring heal immunity or shock into the equation which you have to do for chirrut anyway. This is a zeta ability so adding the words ( survives death ) would not be out of bounds.

"CG_Conduit23;846832" wrote:
I don't disagree! I've sent your concerns up the chain and we're discussing options.

Thanks for taking into consideration those concerns. Let's see what you guys come up with :)

I must say I am so excited with the incoming new content (empire toons etc...) that I check the forum every hour give or take lol

Conduit23 is there a max number of turns barris (or any character) can take?

I was just told that someone with Vader lead had 10 dots on my chirrut under barris lead and she started going crazy for about 10 turns and then just stopped.

Edit Nvm. He didn't tell me bariss had dots also

"scuba;847417" wrote:
Conduit23 is there a max number of turns barris (or any character) can take?

I was just told that someone with Vader lead had 10 dots on my chirrut under barris lead and she started going crazy for about 10 turns and then just stopped.

Edit Nvm. He didn't tell me bariss had dots also

She stopped because she died no? 10 dot is like 50% hp hit...

"CG_Conduit23;846832" wrote:
I don't disagree! I've sent your concerns up the chain and we're discussing options.

While we are on the bariss subject, anyway to improve her equalization ? She never gets to use it cause the threshold is way too low @ 50%

75 % could be good, or handle it as RG as a way to give defense up... She uses it whenever she can...

I'd rather have her give defense up than use her basic tbh ;) and would give some value to her omega!

Thanks

"Maraxus;848364" wrote:

"scuba;847417" wrote:
Conduit23 is there a max number of turns barris (or any character) can take?

I was just told that someone with Vader lead had 10 dots on my chirrut under barris lead and she started going crazy for about 10 turns and then just stopped.

Edit Nvm. He didn't tell me bariss had dots also

She stopped because she died no? 10 dot is like 50% hp hit...

I updated because he didn't tell me barris had dots.