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in05wikfd3
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14 days ago

Less than Fair Reward System

This is yet another calculation on the Episode Pass rewards. I’ve added this calculation, because I think people are not considering the distribution of Episode Currency along the Episode track. 41,000 / 4 = 10,250 EP per week does not portray an accurate picture. We need to look at how many points we get week by week, since the store refreshes every week. I’ve broken down the calculation for the first week. Let me know if there is something missing.

Dailies = 3,600 per day
              = 25,200 per week

Episode quests = 2,000 per day
                                = 14,000 per week

Episode quest chapter = 8,000 per week


GC feats = 4,550 per feat
                   = 9,100 per challenge
                  = 18,200 per week

Marquee = 4k


For the first week, F2P will get around 51,200 - 69,400 EP
This will get you to track 10-13 which is about 5,000 EC.
This is not enough to cover the previous rewards from the previous GC.
As the weeks progress, the rewards increase, but you can’t make up for the previous rewards, because the shops will have refreshed.

CG, at least try to make it somewhat fair by changing the store refresh to 28 days and quadruple the items in the store.

EDIT: I made a mistake, players reaching track 10 will get 5,000 EC but reaching track 13 will get 8,000EC.

max EC broken down by week
week 1: 8,000

week 2: 10,000

week 3: 8,000

week 4: 15,000



It still depends on your progress, but there's no way we can claim all the necessary material each week

  • I was just coming on here to post this. I've seen videos online saying FTP will still get the same omis and kyros as before if we buy from the store with the currency but the currency is only 2.5k for milestone 1 and 6 so 5k total in week 1.

    You need 5.5k to buy the omis and kyros from the store in the first 7 days before it refreshes. To do that you'll also need milestone 11 (requiring 55k episode points to reach). Is that even possible in 7 days as FTP?

    • in05wikfd3's avatar
      in05wikfd3
      New Rookie

      It's possible. Excluding GC feats and assuming you can max out everything else, you should have around 51k. You need 55k to reach track 11. So you'll need to get around 4k from the GC feats.

    • DUNCAN1919's avatar
      DUNCAN1919
      New Vanguard

      Yes its possible, I'm on milestone 9 and will be on 10 when it refreshes the tasks later today and comfortably be beyond 11 with the next GC.

      What CG should change is the store refresh time- it should refresh with every new GC if that was the case with my current episode earnings Id have got 6 omicrons by Saturday which would be an extra 2 per week over previous rewards just from the store.

  • Your calculations are based on endgame/almost maxed players.

    What about the players who had a single good unrelated squad able to finish the higher tier? They can't do it anymore because of the pay wall. Feats are very difficult for them as well. So, they can't get almost any points

    • in05wikfd3's avatar
      in05wikfd3
      New Rookie

      The main point was to show that it wasn't possible to get the same (equivalent) rewards each week when reaching max EP, because the EC isn't evenly distributed across the weeks. They will now change how much EP is handed out each week, so these calculations can change

  • I think FTP might be looking at 66,450 per week (depending upon GC feats) so it should be possible.

     

    • in05wikfd3's avatar
      in05wikfd3
      New Rookie

      yeah, it depends on the GC feats, but it should be possible on the first week. One thing to note on week 2, you need to reach track 26 to get 10k, which requires players to fully max GC in both week 1 and week 2, which is very unlikely for most F2P players. Likely situation for most players
      week 1: 8,000 EC
      week 2: 7,000 EC

  • Gabe9876543210's avatar
    Gabe9876543210
    Seasoned Traveler

    Did we get 4 Omicrons per week before? I don't remember.

    I've already bought the 3 omicrons from the store at 4800 EC for week 1 with three days left, and I think basically everyone with a semi-decent roster will be able to do that every week.

    There are 4 more on the Episode Track, #13, #23, #33 and #43. So if you get to #43, you will have gotten 4 per week.

    If you only get to #33, you will have gotten 3.75/week. I think everyone who is active will be able to get that.

    I don't think it's fair to say that everyone who used to get 2 omicrons per GC before should be able to get to Track #50.  #43 maybe.

    The goal should be making it to 4800 EC/week to buy the 3 Omicrons from the store.

    Are we not all getting that, and am I missing something that makes this horribly unfair?

  • If you care only about omicrons, then I think these changes are positive. If you're active every day, then you are guaranteed 3 omis per week from the store. You won't need to achieve any GC feats to do buy them. You can get to track 40 without completing GC which will grant another 3 omis.
    You should be able to get 15 out of 16 omis without doing any of the GC feats.

    TL;DR

    Calculations for the guaranteed omis at the store

    - EC are obtained every 5 milestones (so every 25,000 EP)
    - The minimum currencies received by these milestones is 2,500. So every 2 milestones will grant 5,000 which is enough to cover the cost of the omis in the store
    - At most, you'll need to cover 9 milestones each week to buy the omis which is 45,000 EP
    - Daily challenges and Episode quests grant 47,200 EP, so its possible to cover 9 milestones each week without completing any GC feats