Give me your thoughts. I know that a whale from my arena shard (my main competitor for rank 1) is ready to spend money on new packs and get 7 star Krennic and Death Trooper as soon as they are in the shop. I won't spend money on these packs and I want to prepare a team that will be able to beat his new team with these characters.

I want to hear something smarter than this...

Edit: I know that a whale from my arena shard (my main competitor for rank 1) is ready to spend money on new packs and get 7 star Krennic and Death Trooper as soon as they are in the shop. I won't spend money on these packs and I want to prepare a team that will be able to beat his new team with these characters.

Best team to counter new empire team with Krennic and Death Trooper?

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Amartell44
8 years ago
"Vertigo;877069" wrote:
"Smapty;876846" wrote:
"MathKid3;876674" wrote:
What about zeta Yoda? His team will get 30% tm constantly. Those AOEs that cause multiple debuffs will grant 60 or 90% tm. Additionally, his tenacity up upon receiving a debuff makes it literally impossible for the automatic ability block to land.

This is it...

This team is going to be way better then people realize...

I hope at least... it's all dependent on if you gain multiple TM boosts for multiple resists

Has anyone tried it yet?

It's my next zeta... #5 goes to Yoda lead (tomorrow)

There are a few problems with Yoda Zeta though.
1) Tenacity gained from the lead itself is negligible against EP lead/Krennic lead potency.
2) You won't gain Tenacity Up until the very END of the turn in which the debuff is inflicted. Which means Empire teams can inflict multiple debuffs in one turn before the Tenacity Up kicks in. Zader will ruin you because of this.
3) Unlike B2, DT's dispel won't apply any negative effects which will still leave your team open for more debuffs. Jedi don't have a cleanse other than Bariss.

"Vertigo;877069" wrote:
"Smapty;876846" wrote:
"MathKid3;876674" wrote:
What about zeta Yoda? His team will get 30% tm constantly. Those AOEs that cause multiple debuffs will grant 60 or 90% tm. Additionally, his tenacity up upon receiving a debuff makes it literally impossible for the automatic ability block to land.

Yoda will get the first turn ideally... he's pretty fast. A super fast TFP will beat him out...

Mods... it's what it all ultimately comes down to

In a perfect world Yoda goes first... Tenacity and foresight buff for everyone...

If it works as I hope then all those Dots and debuffs will be shrugged off and give big TM gains for the Jedi team.

It's gonna be fun to play around with...,
VertigoBeast
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
"Smapty;877274" wrote:
"Vertigo;877069" wrote:
"Smapty;876846" wrote:
"MathKid3;876674" wrote:
What about zeta Yoda? His team will get 30% tm constantly. Those AOEs that cause multiple debuffs will grant 60 or 90% tm. Additionally, his tenacity up upon receiving a debuff makes it literally impossible for the automatic ability block to land.

This is it...

This team is going to be way better then people realize...

I hope at least... it's all dependent on if you gain multiple TM boosts for multiple resists

Has anyone tried it yet?

It's my next zeta... #5 goes to Yoda lead (tomorrow)

There are a few problems with Yoda Zeta though.
1) Tenacity gained from the lead itself is negligible against EP lead/Krennic lead potency.
2) You won't gain Tenacity Up until the very END of the turn in which the debuff is inflicted. Which means Empire teams can inflict multiple debuffs in one turn before the Tenacity Up kicks in. Zader will ruin you because of this.
3) Unlike B2, DT's dispel won't apply any negative effects which will still leave your team open for more debuffs. Jedi don't have a cleanse other than Bariss.

"Vertigo;877069" wrote:
"Smapty;876846" wrote:
"MathKid3;876674" wrote:
What about zeta Yoda? His team will get 30% tm constantly. Those AOEs that cause multiple debuffs will grant 60 or 90% tm. Additionally, his tenacity up upon receiving a debuff makes it literally impossible for the automatic ability block to land.

Yoda will get the first turn ideally... he's pretty fast. A super fast TFP will beat him out...

Mods... it's what it all ultimately comes down to

In a perfect world Yoda goes first... Tenacity and foresight buff for everyone...

If it works as I hope then all those Dots and debuffs will be shrugged off and give big TM gains for the Jedi team.

It's gonna be fun to play around with...,

True, but even with Yoda first, TFP goes second, clears Foresight. That opens it up for DT to clear the tenacity up before Vader goes in. Of course that'd be turn order dependent on modding as well. Also, if it's Zader, DoTs would stay and TFP would be removing TM from everyone with his bugged basic pretending to attack everyone. I think your main problem with Zeta Yoda would be a well modded turn order Zader team, but it should be pretty good against DK and DT. It should at the very least stop Deathmark.
DarthxJay
8 years ago
I really think the Jedi combo is QGJ zeta with Yoda BM zeta, I don't think Yodas lead is enough. Krennic lead gives potency and Empire characters usually have a cross mod with Potency so that base tenacity is fairly useless. The group foresight help reduce initial damage and as you defeat opponents or lose characters. QGJ gives lots of speed which is the Empires weakness.
STRlKEBOMB
8 years ago
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.
DarthxJay
8 years ago
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

How fast is your JE?
scuba75
Legend
8 years ago
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.
STRlKEBOMB
8 years ago
"Darth_Jay77;877364" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

How fast is your JE?

234 without the bonus
"scuba;877372" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Well i have K-2SO, so he will soak up the daze until all the main threats are gone. But your right, it can mess you up if you dont have K-2SO.
DarthxJay
8 years ago
"scuba;877372" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Droids could possibly work, my opinion.
1. JE must be faster than TFP, it's easy to get TFP very fast. My TFP has gone first over JEs in the tournaments so it's not hard.
2. Krennic must be ability blocked and DT killed ASAP
3. If a kill is made or Krennic not blocked its over
scuba75
Legend
8 years ago
"STRIKEBOMB;877381" wrote:
"Darth_Jay77;877364" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

How fast is your JE?

234 without the bonus
"scuba;877372" wrote:
"STRIKEBOMB;877360" wrote:
I think droids will counter krennic and death trooper pretty easily. My droids already destroy, and i mean utterly destroy, any empire team as long as they dont have maul lead. So adding krennic and DT into an empire team wouldnt really affect droids. And if DT has its zeta then just save those 2 for last.

Not that the droids won't work, but save Dt for last may be bad thing. Daze on basic can put a wrench into that TM gain that droids thrive on.

Well i have K-2SO, so he will soak up the daze until all the main threats are gone. But your right, it can mess you up if you dont have K-2SO.

Dt hits K2 with basic dazes him then hits him again and stuns him, k2 is a rebel after all. K2 taunt is gone and he is stunned with taunt gone.

There should also be a change coming so daze is applied before damage so even if K2 doesn't get stunned the daze will stop his counter and prevent him from regaining taunt.

Good thing is having K2 you can daze Dt to stop his TM gain.
Washington196
New Spectator
8 years ago
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