I don't have any issue with CG creating a character from thin air, just as long as they add to the lore. He's not a main character, but him just "being there" on Endor would be pretty lame. A couple of cut scenes and some Kitty pool depth is definitely called for.

For generic filler it's (bordeline) acceptible but in this case inappropriate when they could have used Old Ben, Princess Leia, Captain Han, Farmboy Luke etc etc. If they wanted a new unit for a cash cow why not give us Bail Organa or someone else already in canon?(Resistance) General Leia Organa should have been the GL anyway

"lucaefor;c-2434830" wrote:For generic filler it's (bordeline) acceptible but in this case inappropriate when they could have used Old Ben, Princess Leia, Captain Han, Farmboy Luke etc etc. If they wanted a new unit for a cash cow why not give us Bail Organa or someone else already in canon?(Resistance) General Leia Organa should have been the GL anywaySo then resistance would have TWO GL's and rebels would still have none?

And there it is. Behold! The worst take.No thanks!"lucaefor;c-2434830" wrote:(Resistance) General Leia Organa should have been the GL anyway

You don't need to quote the OP. I'm not asking them to make sure they give thought to the lore because they've done such a bang up job so far. It would be cool to see a character from SWGOH crossing over into movies/shows.

"LordDirt;c-2434846" wrote:"GhostRep;d-265218" wrote:I don't have any issue with CG creating a character from thin air, just as long as they add to the lore. He's not a main character, but him just "being there" on Endor would be pretty lame. A couple of cut scenes and some Kitty pool depth is definitely called for.What is GBA and 50R-T’s lore?To be fair though, GBA is a nameless drone from planet where these sorts or things are common and honestly, who cares about 50rt? I don't have her geared up, most people don't. I never see youtube videos or threads talking about how amazing she is, and I certainly don't see anyone saying anything else about her. However she isn't replacing anyone, no major plot arcs or stories have been influenced by her existence.Were there soldiers off screen in the battle of endor? Absolutely. So why are none of the ones we know exist and that some of us, especially in regards to one of my favorites, Crix Madine, shown and instead replaced?This has all the marks of what we in the military call, the good idea fairy. It's when someone with no useful or worthwhile ideas decides he's going to shove his own idea down the throats of everyone else simply because he can, regardless of whether it's bad or even just worthless. Drogan is the epitomy of the good idea fairy.RIP Crix Madine, Nien Nunb, every Bothan Spy, Nik Sant....and every other character that already exists and actually matters. And that's just the folks I remember were a part of the story.But hey, whoever decided to make drogan, at least there's something in star Wars that you can say you made.....

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drathuk916
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

So his limb difference is a missing finger (not his thumb) on his right hand that holds the keypad he punches commands into for the flamethrower. He fires his blaster with his left hand.

You’re all acting as if his limb difference makes him incapable of functioning in any meaningful way on the “front lines.” This is the exact opposite intent of cg when creating the character. The point of the character is he is still capable of being a valuable fighter despite missing a finger and presumably, though not stated, having a weaker right arm.
Jac51UB
New Veteran
2 years ago
"Abe_Fr0man;c-2437249" wrote:
"Jacgul;c-2437230" wrote:
"iMalevolence;c-2437228" wrote:
"Jacgul;c-2437227" wrote:
"iMalevolence;c-2437226" wrote:
And that's a problem, why?

How did he get the rank?

> An expert tactician and technician

Seems to me like CG already explained how he moved up ranks.

Nope, rebel fighter tag. Tacticians and technicians aren't frontline combatants the way every other rebel fighter is.

Also, this is a mobile game based on a
Sci-fi universe. Attempting to apply real world logic is silly. Go ahead, explain how light speed works. Or lightsabers. Remember empire strikes back? How did they survive walking out of the Falcon in the space slug sequence when that’s in the vacuum of space? How logistically are massive ships like star destroyers built? How does (did) the HVAC on the Death Star work?

Real world logic doesn't apply, however, when you pick and choose where the in universe logic applies, lightsabers lethality when stabbed into the stomach or chest, how the force works, those sorts of things, things go to crap.
Jac51UB
New Veteran
2 years ago
"Drathuk916;c-2437261" wrote:

So his limb difference is a missing finger (not his thumb) on his right hand that holds the keypad he punches commands into for the flamethrower. He fires his blaster with his left hand.

You’re all acting as if his limb difference makes him incapable of functioning in any meaningful way on the “front lines.” This is the exact opposite intent of cg when creating the character. The point of the character is he is still capable of being a valuable fighter despite missing a finger and presumably, though not stated, having a weaker right arm.

I assume your statement is based on years of your own years of military experience and multiple deployments right? Because if it's not, believe me, you won't won't win that. This winter I'll have spent 38 months deployed. No, having a weaker arm you can't be a part of any military team, same problem I have with echo, because guess what, when someone goes down, if you can't carry them, you're worse than useless. It is never acceptable to be the weakest link in any military capacity. If he's a rebel fighter and a captain, it means he got given that rank, goes back to my initial post. He could never have possibly earned it through military operations doing a combattant job.
Jac51UB
New Veteran
2 years ago
"Abe_Fr0man;c-2437280" wrote:
Yes. In the real world I’d assume you’re correct. I won’t pretend I know squat about military conflict. But this isn’t the real world. In this universe military engagements include fighting alongside ~3’ tall bears. In this universe a blaster shot can be stopped in mid-flight. I think trying to apply real world logic makes everything go to crap.

So where do you draw the line? No one dies from lightsaber wounds? Blasters are nerf darts? Clones were bread as super soldiers for no reason because according to you it doesn't matter? We have decades of lore that have framed the rules and logic of star Wars, and especially in the martial aspects, it's been quite clear that it's the same. Whether the old Republic Commando novels or the new clone wars, we have a very clear picture of what war is in star Wars. And it looks almost identical to war on earth, just on a grander scale.
And a 3 foot tall bear would have little to no trouble ripping a human limb from limb.
iMalevolence
New Ace
2 years ago
"Jacgul;c-2437279" wrote:
"Drathuk916;c-2437261" wrote:

So his limb difference is a missing finger (not his thumb) on his right hand that holds the keypad he punches commands into for the flamethrower. He fires his blaster with his left hand.

You’re all acting as if his limb difference makes him incapable of functioning in any meaningful way on the “front lines.” This is the exact opposite intent of cg when creating the character. The point of the character is he is still capable of being a valuable fighter despite missing a finger and presumably, though not stated, having a weaker right arm.

I assume your statement is based on years of your own years of military experience and multiple deployments right? Because if it's not, believe me, you won't won't win that. This winter I'll have spent 38 months deployed. No, having a weaker arm you can't be a part of any military team, same problem I have with echo, because guess what, when someone goes down, if you can't carry them, you're worse than useless. It is never acceptable to be the weakest link in any military capacity. If he's a rebel fighter and a captain, it means he got given that rank, goes back to my initial post. He could never have possibly earned it through military operations doing a combattant job.

It's almost like the rebellion isn't some state sanctioned military with nearly limitless resources where it can turn away people for any reason, but is instead a fledgling operation, desperate for people willing to help and welcome to everyone. And, when given a chance, a person with a congenital difference was able to participate and offer meaningful contributions to the cause.
drathuk916
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Jacgul;c-2437279" wrote:
"Drathuk916;c-2437261" wrote:

So his limb difference is a missing finger (not his thumb) on his right hand that holds the keypad he punches commands into for the flamethrower. He fires his blaster with his left hand.

You’re all acting as if his limb difference makes him incapable of functioning in any meaningful way on the “front lines.” This is the exact opposite intent of cg when creating the character. The point of the character is he is still capable of being a valuable fighter despite missing a finger and presumably, though not stated, having a weaker right arm.

I assume your statement is based on years of your own years of military experience and multiple deployments right? Because if it's not, believe me, you won't won't win that. This winter I'll have spent 38 months deployed. No, having a weaker arm you can't be a part of any military team, same problem I have with echo, because guess what, when someone goes down, if you can't carry them, you're worse than useless. It is never acceptable to be the weakest link in any military capacity. If he's a rebel fighter and a captain, it means he got given that rank, goes back to my initial post. He could never have possibly earned it through military operations doing a combattant job.

I respect your military service first and foremost. That said, I will also disagree that you can apply military norms in the real world to the rebel alliance. Han Solo is a general after less than four years in the alliance, so is lando in less than a year. So ranks can’t be said to follow a normal military order compared to the real world.

Now, I actually assume by “earn his rank” you were discussing his capability on the battlefield and not duration in the military organization. All we’ve been told is he has a limb difference and had it described as a disability. Cg hasn’t quantified the severity. Everyone is jumping to the conclusion it’s a disqualifying disability. It may very well be in a real world military or even a real world rebel alliance in desperate need of people. The point is you’re assuming it’s disqualifying. I’m assuming he improvised, adapted, and overcame any limits he had and did it to a level satisfactory to the people he fought with and for. Both are reasonable assumptions as this is, after all, a fictional character in a fictional universe.

Ymmv
deathbringer59
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
Slightly on/off topic but from another video game Mass Effect, your pilot for all 3 games can't use his legs at all. He gives alot of info and backstory on his disease but it still doesn't stop him from being one of the best pilots in the game.

Having disabilities isn't a problem especially when modern or future tech can help solve the problem. It also depends on the universe that it is set in. Were i see it, the SW universe has plenty of I option where people like Drogon can get by fine. I can see how Drogon would be part of the Rebellion and be Frontline. One missing finger isn't too much of a hinder and Rebels aren't too picky on their roster choice. Considering probally alot of recruits still went empire, the Rebellion couldn't afford to turn away people. This is true even in real modern conflicts were people are rebelling. Everyone who wants to rebel will, not just the inshape fighting force.
drathuk916
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Abe_Fr0man;c-2437296" wrote:
Oh, and lest I forget to also add: I %1,000 want Nien Nunb and of course would have preferred them to a newly-minted character.

This is something I can absolutely get behind. Cg, as usual, disappointed many of us by its decision.
KDC99-X
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Just to nitpick, it's not just that he's missing a finger: his whole right arm is shorter compared to the left, it appears to be some form of radial longitudinal deficiency.

I'm not saying that disqualifies him from participating in a desperately under-resourced and under-staffed Rebellion taking place in a fictitious universe.
KDC99-X
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

"Jacgul;c-2437282" wrote:
"Abe_Fr0man;c-2437280" wrote:
Yes. In the real world I’d assume you’re correct. I won’t pretend I know squat about military conflict. But this isn’t the real world. In this universe military engagements include fighting alongside ~3’ tall bears. In this universe a blaster shot can be stopped in mid-flight. I think trying to apply real world logic makes everything go to crap.

Clones were bread as super soldiers for no reason because according to you it doesn't matter?