cheaters

How does the cheating even work? Do they literally hack the game, or is it a glitch? I’m a fairly new player and I don’t want to run into these types of guys.

That would be nice. Only satisfaction we are getting is msg the guild leader everytime he hops and having him booted just before events.

"Puuzaa;c-2401694" wrote:
One thing i want in game is also match log which shows teams to used every match..
Gac and tw too.
Why i'm able to look those ga-matches in swgoh.gg but not in game?
I bet that more transparency makes good to track more cheaters down

How would seeing it in game make a difference to you?

"herd_nerfer;c-2401713" wrote:

"wharp;c-2401712" wrote:
Having a battle logs or the possibility to "replay" (like a video) battles would help having less "false" report.

I agree that would be helpful, but that would end up being an enormous amount of data.

No. It absolutely would not be

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2401714" wrote:

"herd_nerfer;c-2401713" wrote:

"wharp;c-2401712" wrote:
Having a battle logs or the possibility to "replay" (like a video) battles would help having less "false" report.

I agree that would be helpful, but that would end up being an enormous amount of data.

No. It absolutely would not be

Wouldn't be helpful, or wouldn't be a lot of data?

Wouldn't be a lot of data

Yup. We know from GW that outcomes are fixed, given the same RNG seed and actions taken.

"nfidel2k;c-2401720" wrote:

"wharp;c-2401719" wrote:
yeah, It would be very light, battle outcomes (all possibilities) is already determined when you beging the fight (from the RNG algorithm), you only need to store the "path" taken (abilities used) and timestamps.

Only if their code is not ugly.

Assuming the RNG is a pseudo-random sequential generation from a single starting seed. If it is re-seeded, separately seeded, or uses another form of RNG, you would need to store the results as well.

Also you would need to store initial states for each side.

And then there is the sheer number of battles being generated.

Yup, that's what I mean by "ugly code" :smiley:

"herd_nerfer;c-2401721" wrote:

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2401717" wrote:
Wouldn't be a lot of data

In order for it to be useful for detecting cheating? They'd have to store the state of every character in the battle, including gear levels, mods, ability levels, whether a datacron was present and what its stats are, and the result of every damage calculation, as well as what abilities were used every turn. And they'd have to do that for every single pvp battle for every single player in the game. For a single user, this isn't a lot of data - for 100 users it's not a lot of data - but for 300k+ users it gets much more significant - and then there's the matter of how long to store it. One or two days worth of data - sure, no problem - definitely not trivial, but certainly manageable - but weeks worth? months?

yes, but they are already "cloning" your accounts for TW / GAC, so it would be nothing for them.
Results of damage calculation, not really, the algorithm is already in the app so , they just need the seed (and other factors used for their algorithm) and compute again.

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2401725" wrote:
Back to swgoh, you don't store everything you described. You don't need to know the mods. You just need the rng seed, base stats, ability levels, and a move/target log. The game engine can recreate the outcomes upon request.

CG actually gets battle logs (its how we get GAC results) but they get more information than what the GAC history shows, they get a step by step information of the battle, and it also includes the RNG seed

We know this because one of the dataminers in swgoh events server shared a battle log example that is sent after a battle concludes, and i read some of it

There was enough data that its possible CG has a sandbox environment where you can drop the JSON file and the battle simulation can be displayed

Such technology is possible to create from battle log, but the question whether CG has a battle recreation is unknown to me