5 years ago

Circle of logic

I wanna start by saying this post is a question. I’m actively looking for someone to piece this together for me in a respectful way if I’m missing something obvious. I don’t write code and I’m not familiar with android OS. With that being said, they said they don’t want to cater to a small amount of players for something like sandbox mode or guild pvp. Isn’t galactic legends catered to a small player base? ( the spenders yeah I know why they did that one). To continue this thought, they don’t want to cater to a small group, but we can’t get a poly count increase for graphics bc people still run the game on IOS 10? That caters to iphone 5 and 5c.. they developer of the phones themselves no longer support any updates on these phones? So that doesn’t necessarily add up. I would be very shocked to find out the whales of this game are putting 10s of thousands into this game that they play on a phone that is 8 iPhone generations behind. Would just seem odd. Is anyone familiar with android iOS 4.1/4.4/5.0 and able to explain if that is a more devastating blow to the game then cutting off iPhone 5 and 5c? Just kinda felt like we got the run around on this and their is a more pressing issue as to the “why” we can’t/won’t get a slight upgrade in graphics. Any input would be nice if someone sees the piece to the puzzle they wont tell us.

Ps. Just want to say it didn’t sit well when they said “ it’s expensive” and “it’s still not free”. The game is now expensive to play. It has earned over a billion in revenue and is estimated to make 75k a day. That probably a team members salary a day or at least close. Makes me wonder if EA/Lucas arts gets like 85% of the money and the game is running “paycheck to paycheck” per say. A lot of money, little to show for it lately. If any one has a “reality check fact” to explain it would be appreciated, like how much it costs to run a server like they have that would make the math make sense. Thanks for reading guys, be nice in the comments, it’s a pandemic out here

littlemac2014
5 years ago
The difference is sandbox mode is additional work effort that will be regularly utilized by a minority of existing players. Having you game run on older dervices may directly benefit a small group, but that is so that more players can play the game at all. Two very different ideas between new content that doesnt advance your roster for a small group, and allowing more people to play your game.
ckingera75
5 years ago
"littleMAC77;c-2097703" wrote:
The difference is sandbox mode is additional work effort that will be regularly utilized by a minority of existing players. Having you game run on older dervices may directly benefit a small group, but that is so that more players can play the game at all. Two very different ideas between new content that doesnt advance your roster for a small group, and allowing more people to play your game.

I personally don’t care about a sandbox mode, even if a lot of people do, but I like the idea of a guild PvP to substitute or something more casual to play and learn. Also @littleMAC77 i see a lot of people, who I assume are moderators, keep repeating that “a small group of people want sandbox”. Is there a poll or any community facing analytics available somewhere that reflects this? I legit hear this A LOT. Yet from my scope of the community, which is small yes but still an alliance of 13 guilds, it’s a resounding yes for sandbox or something similar. Typically I’m hearing the message “the few are just loud” or “people who like the game don’t post on forums it’s just complainers so that’s why we see it so much”. Can you provide any insight on how CG or its forum mods came to the conclusion? Please don’t take that as a jab or me trying to argue. I just was curious :)
littlemac2014
5 years ago
"Ckingera;c-2097714" wrote:
"littleMAC77;c-2097703" wrote:
The difference is sandbox mode is additional work effort that will be regularly utilized by a minority of existing players. Having you game run on older dervices may directly benefit a small group, but that is so that more players can play the game at all. Two very different ideas between new content that doesnt advance your roster for a small group, and allowing more people to play your game.

I personally don’t care about a sandbox mode, even if a lot of people do, but I like the idea of a guild PvP to substitute or something more casual to play and learn. Also littleMAC77 i see a lot of people, who I assume are moderators, keep repeating that “a small group of people want sandbox”. Is there a poll or any community facing analytics available somewhere that reflects this? I legit hear this A LOT. Yet from my scope of the community, which is small yes but still an alliance of 13 guilds, it’s a resounding yes for sandbox or something similar. Typically I’m hearing the message “the few are just loud” or “people who like the game don’t post on forums it’s just complainers so that’s why we see it so much”. Can you provide any insight on how CG or its forum mods came to the conclusion? Please don’t take that as a jab or me trying to argue. I just was curious :)

I cannot speak for any data CG may have, but they always reference their analytics when making decisions so they have something they feel says it would not be engaging for the majority.

Personally, from my own interactions among the community, i feel that a sandbox mode would be used by many in the community...for like a week. This game is played by many people, and the forums, your alliance, my alliance, and reddit are a very small subset of that group. While many are not opposed to such a mode (I would love it for occasional testing), the chances the average player (who make up the majority of the playerbase) interact with a mode that provides no roster advancement is low.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
When someone holds all the data and won’t share said data, they can say whatever they want about that data. This coupled with the CGDF, the community loses every time.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Iy4oy4s;c-2097728" wrote:
When someone holds all the data and won’t share said data, they can say whatever they want about that data. This coupled with the CGDF, the community loses every time.

calling them names, and saying they dont care is a winning strategy for the community?
ckingera75
5 years ago
@Kyno maybe idk what cgdf means but I don’t think he called them a name or said they words “they don’t care”. Do you think moving every hard question or post that is critical deeper in the forums to where only you moderators comment and invalidate their opinions is a win for the community?
jakedonels786
New Spectator
5 years ago
I assume it's the CG Defense Front or somesuch, which doesn't seem necessarily pejorative
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"Ckingera;c-2097953" wrote:
Kyno maybe idk what cgdf means but I don’t think he called them a name or said they words “they don’t care”. Do you think moving every hard question or post that is critical deeper in the forums to where only you moderators comment and invalidate their opinions is a win for the community?

I am not the only one who moves things. Some posts are created in these sections too. Nothing is hidden, and the dev team doesn't only read things in GD, neither does the community.

This is your friend: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussions I always deal from this page, and often have to look around to figure out where I am on the forum.

I didn't say they said or did either of those things, just pointing out that that is the current state of posting here, and asking if that is the method that is best for the community?

do you feel that it is?
ckingera75
5 years ago
To answer your question, calling them names doesn’t help, being critical or saying “they don’t care” does help in some cases. It highlights where the community is feeling the divide. Which at this point, is the difficulty or price to play the newer content of the last year. It’s not unreasonable to understand that people are upset that they wait 6 months for something new and can’t actively participate for a long period of time. 5 years in, the people that post are the people care enough to share the frustrations, they don’t want the fun to end or the game to die. Not just “the loud complainers”, as one mod I’ll leave unnamed referred to them as. I respect the difficulty of your job, I know u see so much shit that u have to roll your eyes at.. I get it. Just try and encourage other mods to not have the prison guard mentality that “we are all bad”
jakedonels786
New Spectator
5 years ago
if you're really asking, I 100% agree with Iy4oy4s, who, by the way, said they didn't share the data. (did not say they didn't care).

And there certainly is a group in the forum that make it difficult for outsiders in the community to come to the forums and ask for information or voice criticisms. And that includes the functionality of the forum where a post is moved/closed and subsequently hard to find (on mobile or PC).