Not sure if this has been talked about before but I feel like it is an issue that deserves a look at. When it comes to the top 10 of arena things become very competitive. Some have worked around this by working with their shardmates to plan when to take a certain place and when to avoid them. While I feel like this negates the essence of arena I don't mind a little cooperation to get better rewards. The problem is that 7 of the top 10 are in the same guild in my shard, meaning that I'd never be able to get to the top due to constantly being attacked from all of them. Is there anything that should be done about this? If so what do you think could 'fix' this?

"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:Not sure if this has been talked about before .... Really?

"Waqui;c-1505249" wrote:"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:Not sure if this has been talked about before .... Really?Yes, I don't browse here frequently and I haven't seen a post talking about it when I have been on. If that's all you came here to say why post at all? You're only bumping the discussion to the top. If it is an issue that's over discussed let it get buried.

"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:Not sure if this has been talked about before but I feel like it is an issue that deserves a look at. When it comes to the top 10 of arena things become very competitive. Some have worked around this by working with their shardmates to plan when to take a certain place and when to avoid them. While I feel like this negates the essence of arena I don't mind a little cooperation to get better rewards. The problem is that 7 of the top 10 are in the same guild in my shard, meaning that I'd never be able to get to the top due to constantly being attacked from all of them. Is there anything that should be done about this? If so what do you think could 'fix' this?There are really only 2 was to deal with this kind of situation:1) join em - either their guild or find their shard chat and get in on the action2) beat em - develop your own "coalition of the willing" from those other players in your shard who aren't part of the in-crowd and fight it out with the "cool kids"The devs have not, in many previous threads and related conversations, made any effort to denounce this type of coordination among shards which can only mean that they accept, or even condone, such organization. Do not expect some game wide "fix." You need to come up with your own (or accept never making the top 10).

Shard chats exist for a few reasons.1) without shard chats you have people defending their spot even when it does not matter, meaning everyone is burnign extra crystals on refreshes.2) the timing for arena payout is absolutely freaking terrible, im trying to have dinner, so the less i have to mess with this the better.3) no one benefits if a payout rolls around with someone in a top 5 spot who is not getting a payout.

Hold up right there! you're looking suspiciously happy!https://cdn.skoften.net/images/66737/picdump_1356_33__800.jpg

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Waquira
7 years ago
"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:
Not sure if this has been talked about before ....

Really?
UCF_Arsenal
7 years ago
"Waqui;c-1505249" wrote:
"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:
Not sure if this has been talked about before ....

Really?

Yes, I don't browse here frequently and I haven't seen a post talking about it when I have been on. If that's all you came here to say why post at all? You're only bumping the discussion to the top. If it is an issue that's over discussed let it get buried.
Ferret2112
7 years ago
"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:
Not sure if this has been talked about before but I feel like it is an issue that deserves a look at. When it comes to the top 10 of arena things become very competitive. Some have worked around this by working with their shardmates to plan when to take a certain place and when to avoid them. While I feel like this negates the essence of arena I don't mind a little cooperation to get better rewards. The problem is that 7 of the top 10 are in the same guild in my shard, meaning that I'd never be able to get to the top due to constantly being attacked from all of them. Is there anything that should be done about this? If so what do you think could 'fix' this?

There are really only 2 was to deal with this kind of situation:

1) join em - either their guild or find their shard chat and get in on the action

2) beat em - develop your own "coalition of the willing" from those other players in your shard who aren't part of the in-crowd and fight it out with the "cool kids"

The devs have not, in many previous threads and related conversations, made any effort to denounce this type of coordination among shards which can only mean that they accept, or even condone, such organization. Do not expect some game wide "fix." You need to come up with your own (or accept never making the top 10).
sirgreensparrow
7 years ago
Shard chats exist for a few reasons.

1) without shard chats you have people defending their spot even when it does not matter, meaning everyone is burnign extra crystals on refreshes.

2) the timing for arena payout is absolutely freaking terrible, im trying to have dinner, so the less i have to mess with this the better.

3) no one benefits if a payout rolls around with someone in a top 5 spot who is not getting a payout.
emvedebe
7 years ago
Hold up right there! you're looking suspiciously happy!
https://cdn.skoften.net/images/66737/picdump_1356_33__800.jpg
GladOS-013
Hero+
7 years ago
It all depends on when people have payout times. If all 7 of them share the time with you, then chances are they'll coordinate and lock you out. If they get payout before or after you, then they might be willing to "share."

Find out if they have a discord or LINE channel and find out!
UCF_Arsenal
7 years ago
"jkray622;c-1505236" wrote:
It all depends on when people have payout times. If all 7 of them share the time with you, then chances are they'll coordinate and lock you out. If they get payout before or after you, then they might be willing to "share."

Find out if they have a discord or LINE channel and find out!

Yea I get I could do that but what I'm talking about is the competitive spirit of arena, It has become less of an "arena" and more of a "waiting your turn for payout". Especially when there are multiple people on the same team who can coordinate against others and block them out.
Lochaber1984
7 years ago
"WretchedHive;c-1505273" wrote:
"jkray622;c-1505236" wrote:
It all depends on when people have payout times. If all 7 of them share the time with you, then chances are they'll coordinate and lock you out. If they get payout before or after you, then they might be willing to "share."

Find out if they have a discord or LINE channel and find out!

Yea I get I could do that but what I'm talking about is the competitive spirit of arena, It has become less of an "arena" and more of a "waiting your turn for payout". Especially when there are multiple people on the same team who can coordinate against others and block them out.

Well given how expensive and time consuming this game is, most people do not see the issue in having an arena discord/line channel.

People usually lock themselves at the top of the hour to stop snipers who try to break through for the sole purpose of trolling.

I ain't dropping $50,000 worth of crystal to max out my roster so every bit of help counts from the 2 arenas
UCF_Arsenal
7 years ago

"John_Matrix1985;c-1505280" wrote:
"WretchedHive;c-1505273" wrote:
"jkray622;c-1505236" wrote:
It all depends on when people have payout times. If all 7 of them share the time with you, then chances are they'll coordinate and lock you out. If they get payout before or after you, then they might be willing to "share."

Find out if they have a discord or LINE channel and find out!

Yea I get I could do that but what I'm talking about is the competitive spirit of arena, It has become less of an "arena" and more of a "waiting your turn for payout". Especially when there are multiple people on the same team who can coordinate against others and block them out.

Well given how expensive and time consuming this game is, most people do not see the issue in having an arena discord/line channel.

People usually lock themselves at the top of the hour to stop snipers who try to break through for the sole purpose of trolling.

I ain't dropping $50,000 worth of crystal to max out my roster so every bit of help counts from the 2 arenas

This is exactly what I'm talking about though. I get the frustration of payout times and worrying about being hit right before. That is part of the issue. I feel like arena has lost its meaning, instead of the top players fighting for the top spot it is the top players coordinating when to take a certain spot. I haven't come up with a solution myself but was wondering if others felt the same way.

I know the devs are working on much more important matters but this is still an issue I feel is worth mentioning.
UCF_Arsenal
7 years ago
"Ferret2112;c-1505302" wrote:
"WretchedHive;d-164283" wrote:
Not sure if this has been talked about before but I feel like it is an issue that deserves a look at. When it comes to the top 10 of arena things become very competitive. Some have worked around this by working with their shardmates to plan when to take a certain place and when to avoid them. While I feel like this negates the essence of arena I don't mind a little cooperation to get better rewards. The problem is that 7 of the top 10 are in the same guild in my shard, meaning that I'd never be able to get to the top due to constantly being attacked from all of them. Is there anything that should be done about this? If so what do you think could 'fix' this?

There are really only 2 was to deal with this kind of situation:

1) join em - either their guild or find their shard chat and get in on the action

2) beat em - develop your own "coalition of the willing" from those other players in your shard who aren't part of the in-crowd and fight it out with the "cool kids"

The devs have not, in many previous threads and related conversations, made any effort to denounce this type of coordination among shards which can only mean that they accept, or even condone, such organization. Do not expect some game wide "fix." You need to come up with your own (or accept never making the top 10).

1) No chance of getting into this particular guild nor do I want to join them

2) An option but not one I'm personally interested in, I feel like arena should be free-for-all, we already have territory wars for team fights

Thanks for the info, I wish the devs would speak up about it one way or another.