For me and many others, the single most frustrating thing in this game is the low and unpredictable drop rate from doing hard missions. We are extremely limited in how many we can do, and the drop rate is the lowest for these characters among any method available of obtaining shards in the game.Example: I have been trying for weeks to get Dooku from 4* to 5*. Even when I pay crystals to get extra tries, I rarely get more than 1 or 2 shards out of 6 attempts. Today I got 2 out of 12 tries, which cost 100 crystals and 144 energy (more than a full refill). There was a thread where someone did 20 or 30 tries on a character with no shards at all.I understand that you don't want everyone to get every character to 7* in a week, and that's fine. But the drop rates right now are so low that it's not even worth attempting many characters. At the rate I see shards these days, for example, I am not even bothering trying to get Rey, because it would literally take me 6 months and countless energy refills to get her high enough rank to be worth deploying. This seems like a waste to me. We should be competing based on our ability to make good teams and strategize, not based on who has the patience to sit there going 0/6 or 1/6 for the most days in a row.It would be useful at least if someone from CG ( @CG_JohnSalera ? ) could clarify the drop rates, and if not that, at least please squash the rumors that the game deliberately reduces the drop rates when you are close to unlocking or promoting a character. (Which, FWIW, I don't believe, I think it's just confirmation bias.)Thanks.

All toons should be farmable similar to the cantina table. Happy customers are paying customers. Unhappy customers are the ones that realize that it takes a large cash investment, a long period of time, and animal sacrifices to RNGezus. Those are the people who either quit or realize that it's not worth investing any money in the game. I have not noticed any change in shard drop rate after refreshes, and I'm currently refreshing both Anakin JK nodes and Rey's node. Some days I get lucky; others I don't. I highly doubt there's a difference in code the closer you get to unlock. However, even if there is you won't get anyone at CG to admit it as they know how unethical that would be. TLDR: It's doubtful there's any purposeful change in shard drop rate. I hear RNGeezus likes cats.

The drop rates are the same for every attempt, regardless how many refreshes you've done or how close you are to a threshold number. Or anything else for that matter.It's the most "fair" approach, but we agree it can lead to long stretches of no drops which feels frustrating.(Of course, it also leads to long stretches of getting the drops but we're human and quickly forget those times. ;) )So, for the next major update (not the Player Level increase, but the one after), we're looking to find a way to make it feel better. Once we lock on the approach, @EA_Jesse, @CG_AaronNemoyten, or I can communicate it out.Hope that helps!

Thanks for the update. It goes for the equipment too. I spent two 100 crystal refreshes yesterday to try to get a material and I only got 2 pieces out of the 30 attempts. I have been trying to start up my JC and it is excruciatingly slow. I only got 4 shards from 2 full cantina tries yesterday. I am waiting on one of these good stretches ;-)

Could someone from CG please clarify drop rate chances from missions?

57 Replies

relishyoda
10 years ago
@Qeltar Hear hear
TelaanLightwave
10 years ago
All toons should be farmable similar to the cantina table. Happy customers are paying customers. Unhappy customers are the ones that realize that it takes a large cash investment, a long period of time, and animal sacrifices to RNGezus. Those are the people who either quit or realize that it's not worth investing any money in the game.

I have not noticed any change in shard drop rate after refreshes, and I'm currently refreshing both Anakin JK nodes and Rey's node. Some days I get lucky; others I don't. I highly doubt there's a difference in code the closer you get to unlock. However, even if there is you won't get anyone at CG to admit it as they know how unethical that would be.

TLDR: It's doubtful there's any purposeful change in shard drop rate. I hear RNGeezus likes cats.
JohnSalera
EA Staff (Retired)
10 years ago
The drop rates are the same for every attempt, regardless how many refreshes you've done or how close you are to a threshold number. Or anything else for that matter.

It's the most "fair" approach, but we agree it can lead to long stretches of no drops which feels frustrating.

(Of course, it also leads to long stretches of getting the drops but we're human and quickly forget those times. ;) )

So, for the next major update (not the Player Level increase, but the one after), we're looking to find a way to make it feel better. Once we lock on the approach, @EA_Jesse, @CG_AaronNemoyten, or I can communicate it out.

Hope that helps!
Qeltarr
10 years ago
It does. Thanks. :)
AndroiDad75
10 years ago
Thanks for the update. It goes for the equipment too. I spent two 100 crystal refreshes yesterday to try to get a material and I only got 2 pieces out of the 30 attempts. I have been trying to start up my JC and it is excruciatingly slow. I only got 4 shards from 2 full cantina tries yesterday. I am waiting on one of these good stretches ;-)
Ez987654321
10 years ago
Jedi mind tricks?
SOAR_Gengar
10 years ago
Don't use the old Jedi Mind trick on us though. Our satisfactions are important. No one worry!
GES007
10 years ago
"Feel better" seems like an attempt or a try. "Do or do not, there is no try."
SOAR_Gengar
10 years ago
"CG_JohnSalera;38590" wrote:

So, for the next major update (not the Player Level increase, but the one after), we're looking to find a way to make it feel better. Once we lock on the approach, @EA_Jesse, @CG_AaronNemoyten, or I can communicate it out.

Don't worry. I believe what he is saying is they are going to improve the aversive nature of the system. Behaviorally/mechanically improving the consistency of the drops and having more crests and shorter troughs would improve the user experience, thereby increasing our satisfactions so that we need not worry. So don't worry because this is coming in an update, that will improve the experience.
relishyoda
10 years ago
An easy answer is information to the user. Like, for example, showing what has been the historic hit rate of a drop?

I remember playing a mobile monopoly game (actually, I think it was EA!) and at the end of each round, they would show the distribution of all your dice throws overlayed against the expected distribution.