Crewless BTL-B Y-wing...

I agree with OP 100%

Ships have always had crew, its an intrinsic part of that game segment. Saying that there's no need to introduce faceless crew is absurd, because this game is full of generics. One of the more popular factions, Imperial Troopers, is full of generics. And there's plenty of TIE fighter pilots, so I don't understand why we couldn't get a Clone Pilot, especially since it's an already existing model within the franchise, what with Episode 3 or Pandemic's Battlefront 2.

This basically sets the precedent of future ships not having crew if it's too much hassle to make a new toon or assign an existing one...

Even if the idea of a new character to gear up is too much to bare, then they could've made Echo or the new ARC trooper this ship's Crew. :/

This is bullsh*t.... How can be Y-wing crewless? Absurd... :( The first thing I had in mind when I read about new Y-wing was "yay! who may be the pilot there?" and then... noone. I was so much disappointed.... Seriously, this is so sad and out of lore...

In X-Wing 2.0 (miniature game), this ship has plenty of pilots to choose from:
•Anakin Skywalker
•"Odd Ball" (Clone Trooper)
•"Matchstick" (Clone Trooper)
•R2-D2
•"Broadside" (Clone Trooper)
•"Goji" (Clone Trooper)
•Shadow Squadron Veteran (Clone Trooper)
•Red Squadron Bomber (Clone Trooper)

You could even put General Skywalker there, I don't care, or any clone trooper. If Fives can pilot that Umbaran starfighter because it was the case in one of Clone Wars episodes, why not giving this Y-Wing to Echo or any other clone trooper, like ARC trooper?

Damn, I don't remember when I was so much disappointed because of this game before :(

I think that there is a way to compromise here. Give us a pilot which can be like a reduced character. They don't have to be a real character with abilities, but a character only as an extension of the ship. Writing this out, it sounds pretty much like a ship ability, actually. For ships like this, the Rebel Y-Wing, A-Wing, etc, just give us a generic (but lore appropriate) character or character portrait to be viewed with the ship. They could even be upgraded with ship resources to give the illusion of the traditional pilot.

"HK22;c-1998568" wrote:
You want a lore version for a pilot less Y-Wing? Chopper remotely pilots several Y-Wings when the Phoenix Cell rescues them from a scrap yard.

The more you know! Knowing is half the battle.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYfRhKIYC60

While I genuinely applaud your lore-finding creativity, kudos, it doesn't exactly count though, because:
A) Chopper is piloting them so they still aren't truly pilot-less, and
B) He wouldn't have been an active Gunner for them and the gunner bubble-turret is used in the ship abilities.

Frankly it seems like a very lazy decision from the developers to shoe-horn in a ship without having designed it around a pilot to begin with, especially when Cody is an existing Clone in-game, is long-standing and recently used for a major new 501st squad so most will have or will farm him, he doesn't already have a ship, and was known to be a part of Squad Seven who used the BTL-B Y-Wing, so why on earth not just make Cody the pilot?!

You: The game is too grindy and bottlenecky

CG: *Announces two more ships that won't require us to grind a pilot alongside said ship*

You: WHAAAAAA LOREEEEEE

The game was never about lore and it has been said to death.

I mean for real? And then you complain whwn devs don't listen to us and it's because of this. People will always find a problem where there is none. You have a great fleet and impressive roaster? Good for you, bastards like me who struggle with gearing up ships would probably thank CG for this decision. The fact that ships require pilots limits how many ships they can add without clustering the roster even more.

Bottom line: Crew less ships = More variety. Games evolve.

God, this is why we can't have nice things.

"Potato211;c-1998826" wrote:
You: The game is too grindy and bottlenecky

CG: *Announces two more ships that won't require us to grind a pilot alongside said ship*

You: WHAAAAAA LOREEEEEE

The game was never about lore and it has been said to death.

I mean for real? And then you complain whwn devs don't listen to us and it's because of this. People will always find a problem where there is none. You have a great fleet and impressive roaster? Good for you, **** like me who struggle with gearing up ships would probably thank CG for this decision. The fact that ships require pilots limits how many ships they can add without clustering the roster even more.

Bottom line: Crew less ships = More variety

Remember arena mirror matches before mods? I do.

"Dinotank46;c-1998829" wrote:

"CadoaBane;d-217714" wrote:

Q: Why is this ship crewless?

CG_M: Unlike the droid ships which really don’t have a separate pilot, the BTL-B Y-wing would normally have had a pilot but we ended up not including crew. There was a long discussion on whether we should include an older, well owned clone. In the end, we decided to make it easier to unlock by not requiring crew members from your collection.

Imho that was the wrong decision. I lost interest in this ship already before I had finished reading the whole post. This is completely out of lore in a way that would not be necessary, just for the little "benefit" of not gearing up another potential pilot. :(

It's most probably because the only clones left are echo and cody and they never had a ship so a moot point there

Not quite true, Cody was part of Squad Seven which used that exact ship in actions against the Seps

"CadoaBane;c-1998630" wrote:

"AngelVazzana;c-1998621" wrote:

"CadoaBane;d-217714" wrote:

Q: Why is this ship crewless?

CG_M: Unlike the droid ships which really don’t have a separate pilot, the BTL-B Y-wing would normally have had a pilot but we ended up not including crew. There was a long discussion on whether we should include an older, well owned clone. In the end, we decided to make it easier to unlock by not requiring crew members from your collection.

Imho that was the wrong decision. I lost interest in this ship already before I had finished reading the whole post. This is completely out of lore in a way that would not be necessary, just for the little "benefit" of not gearing up another potential pilot. :(

Are you kidding me? Your actually complaining about them making it easier for us to obtain a ship without having to waste our most needed gear. Bro you need to just step back and evaluate your life and the way you look at things. Never have I seen people complain about a company trying to help them with nothing in return. FFS ignorance is bliss to some.

Whenever you feel the need to judge other people's lifes, I'd suggest to go home and rethink your own. ;) Back to topic: I am sure that players who always neglected their pilots will like the dev decision... but accept the fact that there are also players who enjoy having a benefit from stronger ships due to the pilots over others and relinquish gearing up other characters for exactly that reason. Crewless ships will turn mirror matches into nightmares, remember my words in a couple of months.

Do you realize how much time it takes to design a character. Just imagine it takes a long time to think up the actions the design and all of that. Plus also an update. So unless you would like to do all that. Go home and attempt to do all that.
I dare you

"Potato211;c-1998826" wrote:
You: The game is too grindy and bottlenecky

CG: *Announces two more ships that won't require us to grind a pilot alongside said ship*

You: WHAAAAAA LOREEEEEE

The game was never about lore and it has been said to death.

I mean for real? And then you complain whwn devs don't listen to us and it's because of this. People will always find a problem where there is none. You have a great fleet and impressive roaster? Good for you, **** like me who struggle with gearing up ships would probably thank CG for this decision. The fact that ships require pilots limits how many ships they can add without clustering the roster even more.

Bottom line: Crew less ships = More variety. Games evolve.

God, this is why we can't have nice things.

Well, yeah, you kinda make a good point, no-one likes the gear grind this game has become...but I don't think the issue with ships pilots was 'having to gear up a pilot to make a ship good' I think it was almost entirely 'having to gear up a crappy pilot'. I doubt whether more than lifetime-moaners would complain about having to gear up say Bossk or Han & LegChew, because they are good ships AND characters that're useful with decent kits. Whereas it's quite painful having to gear up pilots like Ackbar, Plo, Sarge, Bistan etc.
What we really need is for them to simply ensure that we have less "useless" characters to gear - such as the Vets who we all had to farm and semi-gear...and then dump aside as they had no other use than for an event. We want to know that characters geared for an event or as pilots won't be completely useless elsewhere.

Still, while I doubt I'll complain at not having another pilot to gear, when Cody is sitting there already with a recently reworked kit and 501st tag, known as part of Squad Seven which used this exact ship, and is owned in-game by most people, it just seems really weird to go pilot-less