So Used See & Bane in GAC. Bane has Unique Omi. After he died, SEE was able to be ability blocked. The language in the Omi description is a bit confusing, but most seem to agree the way it reads is that all of the ability persists after his defeat (not just gac portion). I'll submit a bug report. Anyone else experience?

Yeah doesn't make sense. Either the entire unique should be persisting, or it's a completely useless (and misleading) sentence.

If it is Working As Intended, then the line in his Omicron about the effects persisting should be removed. Other characters with self-buffing Unique abilities don’t lose their own boosts when they are defeated and revived (for example, all of Asajj’s ramping). That’s how Uniques work. There’s no point in calling out that it persists when the Omicron only affects Bane anyway (and also both Bane and SEE lead block allied revives).And I think it should persist. It won’t affect the Bane+1 comps much, because Bane is usually the survivor, and it helps Bane actually be a direct upgrade to Wat as a SEE lifter, because Wat’s techs are persisting buffs.

I think what they're saying is that the the stat boosts for the remaining ally on death get applied even the killed unit is Bane.But that still does not make sense, because A)Fives doesn't have that language and his boosts to others persist after death, and B)That text you quoted about the other ally is in a pre-omicron block as part of a list with all the other effects. So they either need to get rid of that line, mass rewrite the whole thing, or actually fix it.

Basically,Either its not working WAI or its WAI but text description needs to be updated to reflect it and the current text does a poor job of describing how its suppose to work

It is bugged or support has no idea what they are talking aboutNone of this matters if Bane is defeated When Bane or other ally is defeated: The remaining ally gains 5% Critical Damage, Offense and Potency plus an additional 15% of these stats per the defeated character's Relic Amplifier level until the end of battleWhile in Grand Arenas: At the start of battle if there is only one other non-Summon ally present and they are Sith:- Bane gains 75% Mastery, Max Health, and Max Protection- Whenever an enemy is defeated, Bane gains 10% Max Health, Max Protection, and Offense (stacking) until the end of battle- At the start of battle, Bane takes a bonus turnSo the statement: These effects persist if Bane is defeatedDoesn't matter for that entire portion of his abilitySo that only leaves they gain an additional 2% Ultimate Charge, and the following effects occur for Bane and other Sith ally:- Immune to Ability Block, Cooldown Increase, Healing Immunity, Stun, and Turn Meter reduction- Gain 75% Max Health- Gain 75% Max Protection until the first time they are defeated- Ignore Taunt effects- At the start of their turn, recover 35% Protection and dispel all debuffs on themselves

Darth Bane Unique Omicron Not Working Fully in GAC

59 Replies

Nighthawk1697
2 years ago
While in Grand Arenas: At the start of battle if there is only one other non-Summon ally present and they are Sith:

- Bane gains 75% Mastery, Max Health, and Max Protection
- Whenever an enemy is defeated, Bane gains 10% Max Health, Max Protection, and Offense (stacking) until the end of battle
- At the start of battle, Bane takes a bonus turn

These effects persist if Bane is defeated.

what's the point of this persisting it only benefit's bane.
TargetEadu
2 years ago
There isn’t. That’s why CG is changing the text.
TargetEadu
2 years ago
"NatureBoy0713;c-2461058" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2461048" wrote:
Another explanation is that the Omicron benefits were supposed to extend to the other Sith and persist, but that functionality was removed before release.

That’s how it was intended to work. Rather than fix the bug CG decided to go the MSF route and blame the text rather than put manpower into fixing the broken mechanic

The other Sith never got the Omicron benefits like the +75% Mastery. That was always on Bane only. Or at least it was in the final revealed kit.
YurArm
Seasoned Rookie
2 years ago
CG, after your announce, i say: are you seriously???!!! Ahrrrr!!!
You giving best person , and then taking it back!

Give my money back! I spend to take darth Bane, but with his unique!!!!!!! You taking back his uniq, so give my money back.

You play with dirty rules
TargetEadu
2 years ago
"NatureBoy0713;c-2461067" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2461061" wrote:
"NatureBoy0713;c-2461058" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2461048" wrote:
Another explanation is that the Omicron benefits were supposed to extend to the other Sith and persist, but that functionality was removed before release.

That’s how it was intended to work. Rather than fix the bug CG decided to go the MSF route and blame the text rather than put manpower into fixing the broken mechanic

The other Sith never got the Omicron benefits like the +75% Mastery. That was always on Bane only. Or at least it was in the final revealed kit.

Correct, the other sith never got the benefits from the omicron but the way the omicron read was that it was supposed to persist after bane was defeated. The entire unique. It didn’t work like that on release, so rather than fix the bug and make it work like kit read, they decided to just change the wording of the kit to match the functionality and that’s why people are upset and rightfully so.

Yes.

I’m confused how that relates to the point I was trying to make, though.
Whatelse73
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"TargetEadu;c-2461070" wrote:
"NatureBoy0713;c-2461067" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2461061" wrote:
"NatureBoy0713;c-2461058" wrote:
"TargetEadu;c-2461048" wrote:
Another explanation is that the Omicron benefits were supposed to extend to the other Sith and persist, but that functionality was removed before release.

That’s how it was intended to work. Rather than fix the bug CG decided to go the MSF route and blame the text rather than put manpower into fixing the broken mechanic

The other Sith never got the Omicron benefits like the +75% Mastery. That was always on Bane only. Or at least it was in the final revealed kit.

Correct, the other sith never got the benefits from the omicron but the way the omicron read was that it was supposed to persist after bane was defeated. The entire unique. It didn’t work like that on release, so rather than fix the bug and make it work like kit read, they decided to just change the wording of the kit to match the functionality and that’s why people are upset and rightfully so.

Yes.

I’m confused how that relates to the point I was trying to make, though.

If it makes you feel any better, CG is confused about the whole character.
perfidius44
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
"Gawejn;c-2460988" wrote:
"Starslayer;c-2460985" wrote:
"HumbleMumble;c-2460982" wrote:
So Bane as a lead with another random Sith can beat Leia but CG will nerf the mechanic that lets Bane replace Wat as a SEE lifter? Which clearly was the intended and communicated behavior from CG. Bane will still be a great character but it’s just strange to do a character rollout in this way.

According to the post, the thing they’re removing from the skill description was never in the game.
So it’s not a nerf, it’s a clarification on how the skill actually works.

Bane was advertised as a replacement for wat. Techs from Wat persist thru his defeat. Bane doesnt work that way. Players assumed based on information received from cg that bane would give kind of similar functions as wat. But it is just half cooked dish. Yes, Bane is great, but it seems Wat would still be with See. But the idea was to remove Wat from using with See. At least Bane was presented this way.

I’m not denying that. Just saying it’s not a nerf.
However, I’m on the refund Omi team. Just seems fair when you have to change the description because you realized the way it’s written is misleading.
FragR8b00st3R
New Scout
2 years ago

Removing the sentence because Bane's bonuses persisting only to himself after death sounds stupid, does it not? At least you're removing the sentence. By the way, there was no confusion about it. It's poorly worded and was done so to sell Bane as a Wat replacement. That's how it was pitched to us, we bought it, and then it got screwed up.. Wat should re-enter the chat since the Unique goes down the toilet once Bane dies for the most part. You realize people are using Wat since tank tech persists after death, right? If it's not gonna work the same, then don't say it will.

Bane's cool when he's alive, but it sucks it's not the way you had us all believing. Perhaps CG should get some folks on the team to help them analyze their wording, since there are so many things in their kits that are poorly worded or left vague.
YurArm
Seasoned Rookie
2 years ago
Bane's live matter
Or
Wat live matter

??
ildarz
2 years ago
I think people take "Wat replacement" role of Bane way too literally. Pretty obvious he was intended to give SEE ability to duo most squads in the game, which SSE+Wat already did before. Does Bane achieve this role? Obviously big YES, it's one of the most overpowered characters ever released in the game. And if someone still prefer Wat... well, they can have it and also have another overpowered duo squad (Bane leader+another sith). Can't see any reason to complain here, really.