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DarthWares
New Vanguard
2 days ago

Datacron consideration in Matchmaking

CG please consider somehow factoring in the number of datacrons each player/guild has for matchmaking in GAC/TW.

GAC, specifically, I am constantly being put up against players that have 10 - 50 times more crons than I.  Sure, some small variances are to be expected.  But this amount is by far not reasonable by any normal standard.

Respectfully,

DW

6 Replies

  • Mephisto_style's avatar
    Mephisto_style
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    Yes!  Datacrons are not THE problem.  Very few datacrons = a 2 to 3 million GP difference between 2 players where the wealthy guy just decides to slap down 15 top meta teams on defense for 2 months and show up with 10 to 500 banners of autoplay.  When I play chess, I don't want to be matched against Magnus Carlson just because he decided to $%^& around for a month.  

    What you suggested from Egnards is great.  What Scrybe suggested is great.  The current gameplay FOR YEARS AT THIS POINT consistently has players that are in active roster development feeling $()<!/ed on a regular basis.  It's not datacrons doing this, it's horrible GAC matchmaking.

  • harvestmouse1's avatar
    harvestmouse1
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago
    Mephisto_style wrote:

    This is such a _______ perspective.  +stuff

    At no point in your reply did you even mention datacrons.  So, it's the actual match-making you don't like?  Why didn't you say that in the first place?

    In that case I present to you the Activity Score (original idea of Egnard I believe).

    The biggest issue with GAC is a mismatch of rosters due to the lack of activity of some players.

    Each player is given an activity score, that affect rewards in any way.  The max Activity Score is +10 and the minimum is -10.  Players are matched on Skill Points (as they are now).  However, instead of playing the nearest 7 players to them, there is a secondary matching system which is the Activity Score.  Players play players with the same Activity Score, rather than the nearest 7 on the table.

    If you score 0-10 points in a GAC with 0-1 attempts you score -2 AS points.

    If you battle more than once, but not more than teams deployed in 1 zone ( or 2 battles in total for leagues with only 1 team defence zones) you score -1 AS points.

    If you battle up to the amount of teams for 2 zones (3 battles for 1 defence zone leagues) you score 0 AS points.

    If you battle up to the amount of teams deployed for 3 zones (4 battles for 1 defence zone leagues) you score 1 AS point.

    If you battle as many times as there are defensive teams (or 5+ battles for 1 defence zone leagues) you score 2 AS points.

    As stated earlier +10 and -10 are the max/min scores, so once you hit these numbers you hit a ceiling/floor until you start to lose/gain AS points.

    I think this is a very simple and elegant way of fixing GAC.

  • Mephisto_style's avatar
    Mephisto_style
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    This is such a _______ perspective.   You wait 24 hours to attack your opponent.   I made a diligent plan and executed it on my opponent whom should've won with his 14 million GP and very proper mods compared to my 12.5 mill.  Why did I win?  For some reason he's just been showing up and doing 1 battle against all his opponents.  For like 2 seasons.  If he's 2 zoned he doesn't fight, often just not at all.

    My defense plan = moot.  My offense?  Slightly less moot.  

    Importantly for your point, Chess also uses elo laddering.  But you know what chess gamers always want?  A worthy opponent.   You know what most GAC players want? A worthy opponent.  Not someone that shows up for crystal log in and leaves.  You know what CG cares nothing about fixing?  All of this, and it sucks because it's a huge problem across all divisions and the youtubers have even made 30 minute episodes on this crap.  Years-old problem at the heart of their game.

  • nottenst's avatar
    nottenst
    Seasoned Ace
    1 day ago

    GAC matchmaking is fixed as it is now with the ranking. I cannot see them changing anything there.

    TW - we know it needs an overhaul. When they ever get around to it is a complete mystery.

  • If they did that, what would be the point in getting any?  I'll spend none of my crystal resources on them and play in the 'zero cron' bracket.  Datacrons are paying for an advantage.  You take that away, you take away some of their income.

    Ain't gonna happen.  

    The end of the day, you're on a ladder.  You're where you're supposed to be and you'll win the same amount of games what ever match making clause.  

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