Did tb kinda kill this game?

"baked_qft;c-1326397" wrote:

"Boba_The_Fetter;c-1326384" wrote:
Do you have numbers or data on this or just your subjective opinion?

no i do not, subjective opinion. Seems to be the case in my shard (aug 2016) and from what i've seen recruiting now vs the last 8 months or so. Again, may not be the case, which is why i was asking to see if this was an isolated thing that may have sparked my confirmation bias, or if this was more far reaching

That's the most honest unexpected response. Thanks for that. In my sphere, I don't see any issues. But yes, smaller guilds will suffer a Lot, because of TB. Gamers won't naturally want to seek or join a smaller guild. Doesn't mean game is dying.

i wish more players in my fleet arena would stop playing.

"leef;c-1326402" wrote:
i wish more players in my fleet arena would stop playing.

Lol. I wish more people would leave the game too....it will improve the lag.

"TroelsVastrup;c-1326382" wrote:
Not seeing the same. But it does clearly divide the casual and the more dedicated players into 2 groups.

+1

I'm just frustrated that with TB is focused on LS my best was Nhilis lead sith but since getting 7 star Thrawn my empire's are my best crew but can't use them completely bumming me out. Want something for my DS wont stop getting them to gear 12 but we deserve something as well since we need both sides to do anything in this game. Feel left out and our guild would be getting more stars if we could use both sides in battles.

"Wobbegong;c-1326407" wrote:
I'm just frustrated that with TB is focused on LS my best was Nhilis lead sith but since getting 7 star Thrawn my empire's are my best crew but can't use them completely bumming me out. Want something for my DS wont stop getting them to gear 12 but we deserve something as well since we need both sides to do anything in this game. Feel left out and our guild would be getting more stars if we could use both sides in battles.

I'm with you. But I figure some patience is in order, as guild wars and D's TB are coming.

When HAAT was launched it killed a lot of smaller guilds at the time as well that caused shuffling / consolidation. TB just is the most recent game change that challenges the structure of guilds. I don't see it as anything different from other changes the game has introduced in the past. Vets that have been playing since launch are now almost 2 years in - that's a long time to do anything - you're going to have vets jumping off over time just from doing something of that duration. Changes in the game / structure are often that final last little nudge for players getting fatigued anyway to hang it up. This happened with mods as well and I'm sure it will happen when the next big game mode is introduced.

I do think we are getting to a point soon though that's beyond normal veteran / attrition with how BIG the game is getting. I don't think TB pushes it over that tipping point, but we're getting close. The next sizable content push needs to come with an accompanying QoL / streamline update as well.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;c-1326415" wrote:
When HAAT was launched it killed a lot of smaller guilds at the time as well that caused shuffling / consolidation. TB just is the most recent game change that challenges the structure of guilds. I don't see it as anything different from other changes the game has introduced in the past. Vets that have been playing since launch are now almost 2 years in - that's a long time to do anything - you're going to have vets jumping off over time just from doing something of that duration. Changes in the game / structure are often that final last little nudge for players getting fatigued anyway to hang it up. This happened with mods as well and I'm sure it will happen when the next big game mode is introduced.

I do think we are getting to a point soon though that's beyond normal veteran / attrition with how BIG the game is getting. I don't think TB pushes it over that tipping point, but we're getting close. The next sizable content push needs to come with an accompanying QoL / streamline update as well.

I would add by suggesting perhaps a slight case of miscalculation. TB was originally slated for 12 hour phases, and the community response led to the phases being 24 hours where it's been ever since release of TB. There may be a lesson in that nugget of fact and a required alignment between CG and gamers. I simply refuse to play swgoh during work hours, and it's paid off with a sizable bonus for this year from my employer because instead of playing a game, I worked hard doing my job. There is such a thing as a work/life balance, that can be extended to work/life/game balance when viewed in the eyes of swgoh. I don't know what the answers are, and am only pointing out the obvious, and I'm certain CG has tons of internal metrics to consider. But sometimes a viewpoint needs to gain momentum at HQ before real attention is given to it. With Guild Wars and DS TB on the horizon, giving some attention to the work/life/game balance may pay huge dividends. In the era of smartphones, CG is pioneering new gaming models to ensure greater successes for today and more importantly - tomorrow.

There is a general feeling of burnout happening due to TB.

While it's true, the largest part of TB is designed to increase the power of those who spend the most, there has also been an observable number of those players quit as well.

I believe a big part of the problem is due to unrealistic expectations of characters needed.
First you needed to get CLS and then the both twins. Next came CHS so that you could get ROLO. These were not exactly easy to get but they were obtainable.

Once we got into actual gameplay and started seeing platoons is when the real problem began. Needing millennium falcons which were all but impossible to get were a joke. As if that wasn't bad enough there were other ships needed that weren't even available as well like cassians u-wing. At least some of these have become farmable and they are decent ships.

But what about the character platoons? Rare ewoks that no one wanted, stupid lobots that are even more ridiculous. These toons are pretty worthless yet are needed en mass. In our TB the last phase requires 12 lobots alone: 8 are in the bottom section!! This doesn't even count all the ewoks and other rare toons needed.

Yes, TB should be hard and a group effort, but it needs to be realistic as well.

I enjoy TB, therefore I assume everyone does.