Discuss the latest Conquest communication

Exactly. It all depends what the "compensation" is. If banners are given out or the conquest term is extended a few days, that makes sense, because its otherwise very difficult to make up for lost time here. I guess they could also give out conquest energy and stamina consumables, so that you could use the same team for feats multiple times and replenish their stamina. I would think crystals to make up for energy refreshes done due to overly difficult nodes would also be appropriate

2 upnaught shards and we are really sorry the absolute best these jokers will do

CWC x3, Taron Malicos x3, 100 crystals, 100 conquest energy is my prediction. No meaningful apology or explanation, no future attempts to do better by testing content. It’s taking 2 days to fix something so ridiculous it should have been caught prior to release by any reasonable testing. I wonder how long it would have been if it was a game mode that didn’t have an active revenue stream like passes.

it’s entirely natural to believe it’s caused by corporate greed.

I won't say that "greed" isn't a factor, but I will add a couple things to that.

1. CG is a corporation. Its purpose in life is to make money. Greed is woven into its fabric, but that doesn't make it any different from Pharma companies or petrochemical companies or hospitals.

2. Objecting to the idea that CG is both greedy AND incredibly stupid is not the same as objecting to the idea that CG is greedy. I don't think that CG sabotages Conquest progress on purpose to sell more Conquest Passes. But that's not because I believe CG isn't motivated by money. They are. They're literally required by law to be motivated by money. It's illegal for the corporate board to fail to maximize shareholder profit, with only small amounts of wiggle room for consideration of other values, primarily through the backdoor of corporate branding (the idea being that companies can use their self-professed values to distinguish themselves from their competitors in the marketplace).

3. I am a critic of unregulated capitalism. It's bad. But regulated capitalism is the best economic system humans have yet developed for meeting the material needs of human beings. If corporations are "too greedy" and the exceptions for non-profit motivations in corporate decision making are too narrow, that's a problem for the government to take up. The government can adjust the regulations for everyone if the system is out of balance, but CG isn't evil for operating under the profits-to-the-exclusion-of-almost-everything system. That's the system that we have created, as voters and as consumers. Critiquing the system is fine, and I do that, but it's both pointless and unfair to critique CG (assuming it's not breaking the law) for participating in the system that we all have collectively created.

Greed is what it is, and yes it's part of CG. But I don't believe that the conspiracy theories that get bandied about are credible ... mostly because I don't think that CG could be so incompetent as to believe that sabotaging player fun leads to increased profits.

Instead I think that they make the lesser errors of failing to anticipate what increases player fun. And they make a lot of those errors. And I wish they would get better. But "they're greedy so they hurt people on purpose so we will give them our money" doesn't remotely ring true to me.

1000 crystals plus a bunch of consumables which includes the two needed for feats. What I expect is far less.

My reasoning is 500 crystals per mistake (releasing it as they did and then calling a non fix a fix). I’d also like a clear statement on whether this was just buggy content or was there a goal of increasing the difficulty of conquest that just went too far likely due to under testing.

"Sairiki1;c-2441682" wrote:
We lost a lot time, crystals and the trust... I don't want any crystals - I want a conquest which makes more fun. This conquest was too frustrating...and we have to play it another 12 days or more...

Yeh, I'm F2P but spent a lot of time (way too much in hindsight and taking into account latest issues), grinding to get Malicos from last conquest cycle.
It was tedious trying to 'cheese' a lot of feats, and boring with the ones I could do easily but had to do many times, but felt an achievement (and time well spent!) when unlocking.

This I think is a good reason why CG have made it so much harder....they made no money from me, and many others that got a premium character the same way. I guess the 'Force balance' was Trench and Scion :)

I've had a good enough run since the game launched, but greed seems to have taken too much of a hold now for a mobile game that's made/makes billions doesn't it?
I'll never understand why some people have to want so much more and keep squeezing, but I'm happy with that.

Anyway, as I keep seeing on the gambling adverts appearing everywhere "When the fun stops, stop"

I have re-assessed my situation and decided its no longer worth doing 3x50 and 3x100 refreshes and buying the conquest pass, in order to get the red crate for conquest character and a reasonably decent datacron set. Instead it makes more sense for me to only do 3x50 refreshes and get a lower crate, wait a few months more for the character unlock through proving grounds and live with a smaller, weaker datacron set.

I will be saving over 4k crystals per conquest season. Sure my guild will suffer marginally in TW, and I may drop a GAC division because my datacrons are worse, but overall I save more crystals for roster growth. And more importantly I save more time instead of grinding out 100 Tusken Warrior kills.

I dont know about you but as a child I have always dreamt of playing a game where I have to get 100 Tusken Warrior kills, and I envy those you who successfully complete this feat and fulfil their dreams.

CG have successfully engineered an environment that I have discovered actually encourages me to spend to less money, save more time, and progress faster.

Just bump everyone to red crate unlocked and then they have an extra month to fix and test all issues. It will also give CG an incentive to improve quality control for future releases.

"SasquatchWookie;c-2441744" wrote:


I dont know about you but as a child I have always dreamt of playing a game where I have to get 100 Tusken Warrior kills, and I envy those you who successfully complete this feat and fulfil their dreams.

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