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"Lumiya;c-2402258" wrote:
Well at least they are giving the materials back. That's more than they did after QGJ's Omi nerf...- "We're going to nerf Traya tomorrow. But we also know you want those materials for other projects. Therefore, we're going to wait a week, probably more, so that we can be sure you don't get them in time for the start of 5v5 GAC."
- "We're going to nerf Traya tomorrow. But we also know you want those materials for other projects. Therefore, we're going to wait a week, probably more, so that we can be sure you don't get them in time for the start of 5v5 GAC."
"CrispyFett;c-2402260" wrote:
it's ridiculous. they're not going to refund the relic mats I spent further upgrading Traya and the other 2 though. ****. they couldn't forsee this based on her kit? doesn't take a genius
Most of us couldnt foresee this until Ahnaldt and alike made videos about it."CrispyFett;c-2402274" wrote:
"I_JnK_I;c-2402262" wrote:
"CrispyFett;c-2402260" wrote:
it's ridiculous. they're not going to refund the relic mats I spent further upgrading Traya and the other 2 though. ****. they couldn't forsee this based on her kit? doesn't take a genius
Most of us couldnt foresee this until Ahnaldt and alike made videos about it.
Really? who's "most of us"? it's pretty obvious when reading the description of her omicron how it will interact with a character who inflicts numerous debuffs.
Its pretty obvious that the character/omicron is never designed to beat legends, yet here we are.- Finalistic_KleoRising NewcomerCG does everything right. There is no need for players to defeat legends with the help of old characters. Let them buy new ones and defeat the legends.
"Ratinira;c-2402299" wrote:
"I_JnK_I;c-2402287" wrote:
"CrispyFett;c-2402274" wrote:
"I_JnK_I;c-2402262" wrote:
"CrispyFett;c-2402260" wrote:
it's ridiculous. they're not going to refund the relic mats I spent further upgrading Traya and the other 2 though. ****. they couldn't forsee this based on her kit? doesn't take a genius
Most of us couldnt foresee this until Ahnaldt and alike made videos about it.
Really? who's "most of us"? it's pretty obvious when reading the description of her omicron how it will interact with a character who inflicts numerous debuffs.
Its pretty obvious that the character/omicron is never designed to beat legends, yet here we are.
But they were ;)
Road Ahead: October 2021
For rare occasions such as starkiller yes, not for lower tier units- perfidius44Rising Newcomer
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2402322" wrote:
Maybe we're reading the room differently. Because of the refund, I haven't seen many reaching for their pitchforks. It's mostly annoyance and disappointment.
You're probably right, I'm overreacting. No sarcasm. Ironic though. - perfidius44Rising Newcomer
"Ratinira;c-2402314" wrote:
"Starslayer;c-2402300" wrote:
"Ratinira;c-2402299" wrote:
"I_JnK_I;c-2402287" wrote:
"CrispyFett;c-2402274" wrote:
"I_JnK_I;c-2402262" wrote:
"CrispyFett;c-2402260" wrote:
it's ridiculous. they're not going to refund the relic mats I spent further upgrading Traya and the other 2 though. ****. they couldn't forsee this based on her kit? doesn't take a genius
Most of us couldnt foresee this until Ahnaldt and alike made videos about it.
Really? who's "most of us"? it's pretty obvious when reading the description of her omicron how it will interact with a character who inflicts numerous debuffs.
Its pretty obvious that the character/omicron is never designed to beat legends, yet here we are.
But they were ;)
Road Ahead: October 2021
You forgot to circle "on rare occasions".
Edit: They published this after the Road Ahead to clarify things:
Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes Power Tiers:
Marquee/Galactic Chase - ex. Second Sister, Iden Versio
Journey Guide, Conquest Units - ex. Jedi Knight Revan, Commander Luke Skywalker
Galactic Legends - ex. Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, Rey
Galactic Legends with Conquest Counterpart - ex. Jedi Master Kenobi with Commander Ahsoka Tano
NOTE: This list assumes squad compositions are highly synergistic and have comparable mods. This may not always be the case in practice and, if so, is not a balance issue. For example, a Galactic Legend with weak mods and in a non-ideal squad may potentially be challenged by a well modded and highly synergistic squad from the lower tiers.
Wait! Why is there no mention of Omicroned units in the above list? Omicrons boost the power of a unit. Adding an Omicron will move a unit up around a tier on the scale above, which means their final power varies based on the type of character. So where do they sit on the power scale? Marquee units with Omicrons get lifted up to somewhere between the level of a Journey Guide or Conquest unit, while a character like Starkiller (Journey Guide) or Boba Fett, Scion of Jango (Conquest) can rival a Galactic Legend in their specific mode with the right squad.
So taking into account exactly what was written by developers, the Traya Omi shouldn't make her able to rival a GL with Conquest lifter, as LV+Maul.
Still, the "Journey guide" is very broad for just one tier of power, from Palpatine/Han Solo to GAS/Reva, and I'm not sure they would allow an omi on a low Tier Journey character challenge a GL, even without Conquest lifter. I guess it would depend on the squad that goes with it.
Traya perfectly fits in this clarification: she is a Jurney Guide character and they "can rival a Galactic Legend in their specific mode with the right squad".
She is from JG? Yes
In specific mode? Yes
With right squad? Yes
100% what devs said :#
Re-post because auto-moderation ate my homework: there are 2 GL tier levels: GL and GL+conquest. Omi bumps you one level, not two.
Now, these are rough guidelines and Traya able to beat LV+Maul wouldn't be completely out of line. But nerfing her isn't out of line neither, as Omi bumped her 2 tier levels. - You'd sure think so based on the patch notes that say "here are all the changes", but in game, it also doesn't work if there's an opposing DS GL
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2402352" wrote:
Man, why not just put "when no GL" on all the omis that aren't supposed to counter GLs? I'm not trying to be snarky. If they are hell bent on certain things not working against GLs, just make it so and save everyone a bunch of time.
They really shouldn't have added it, fixing the crit scaling likely solves the "problem". But my guess is so you can use Traya on malgus defense and maybe hold against lower jml, and not have the same disadvantage as qgj omi- "Traya Unique Omicron now properly caps at 100% instead of 500%"
@CG_Tusken_Meathead
nope, try again
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