Executor unlock method concerns.. Confirmed

"Ravens1113;c-2284262" wrote:

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"TVF;c-2283925" wrote:
If it unlocks at 10/65, you need

55 to 5*
85 to 6*
100 to 7*
240 total
24 refreshes, 24k crystals *total*

Actually, you can only refresh 19 times. So if you want 7* day 1, it's about 25k crystals since you have to buy 5 of those 1250 packs.

"Kyno;c-2284014" wrote:

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"Ravens1113;c-2283994" wrote:
So…let me get this straight….

We are being forced to relic several characters….relic 5 the minimum with two R8’s and an R7….We need to get a conquest level ship to 7* as well. And at the end of it all we then need to go through a 2 year farm to get that capital ship from 4* to 7*….

I mean what the actual….I mean….oy….I just can’t make sense of their logic anymore

To be fair, no one is forcing you to do anything.

And just like MT and Wicket, this will not be a 2 year process, even of you do not refresh.

Except if I want to stay competitive in fleet arena and not burn my crystal income, I’m going to need to get executor sooner rather than later.

Also, if they don’t increase the blueprints like they did the character shards then how do you figure it won’t be? If we unlock at 4* that means we need another 250 blue prints. 10 a month means 25 months. That’s 2 years without any packs or refreshes

MT and Wicket came out, and the same math was done. I can assure you it didnt actually take players 2 years to get them to 7* after they "qualified". Things about those events cadence were changed during their life.

Oh, they have already told you they plan to run this event more often in a few months?

I am simply using past evidence to reason why there will be people getting this ship in less than 2 years without spending 23k in crystals.

False equivalency. We have 6 Fleet Mastery events. Every single one is on a monthly-ish rotation. The only thing you could safely compare to would be the other AFM events, and they started out with a faster cadence, and then slowed down. So, with the past evidence we have, we can expect the farm (with zero crystals) to be greater than 2 years.

So comparing to an event that started at the same pace is a false equivalency, but equating to one that is different is ok.... got it.

You can expect whatever you want, but I will stick with logic and reason, since no character has required 2 years to farm from qualifying if done at the max available rate, and no crystal refreshes.

So comparing an event to its actual predecessors, which have the actual same name, and the actual same format is wrong, but comparing it to something related only in the fact that upon release it was a 2 year F2P farm is right... got it.

You are not sticking to logic and reason. You jumped immediately past the other 5 events that are actually the same and went to something wildly different because it fit your narrative. And the events you picked started as requiring a 2 year farm even though CG said it would be "the same time as a hard node farm." After a few months of complaining they just moved the characters to their own nodes.

Raddus/Finalizer have been out for over a year. Are they on their own nodes yet? How about Home One, Endurance, or Executrix? No?

Also odd for you now to come out and say "they've never done this before, so even though they've told us that's what they're doing, that's not what they're doing," when you often tell us we can only go by what information we have and not to speculate on what CG may or may not do.

Please share the quote where they said, "this will be a 2 year farm". They are not saying that, at least not that I am aware of.

The player base is saying that, based on the starting position of the event. This has happened before, which is why I used that as an example. In that example things changed later on to have it not be a 2 year farm. By that logic the same thing will happen here.

If they prove me wrong, I will come back here in 2 years and apologize for my logical conclusion.

Kyno, when Raddus and Finalizer were released it was on a basis where it could be once or twice a month. That cut down the farm initially because some months it would be once, others twice. So on average it took players about a year, add on a month or two, more to unlock at 7* after their release with no packs.

This time they’ve said it’s once a month. With no changes to that cadence, it will take 24 months. If they do that for a year, then do a consistently twice a month, that will be 18 months (12 months for 120 blueprints, then 6 months for the last 120).

So it will take you 18 months (at the absolute minimum, 12 months) to get Executor to 7* and that is after GL prerequisite gear requirements. That’s not right. If they have such a steep gear dump, people shouldn’t have to spend even more to get their new ship to full power. This is getting out of hand now

I am not arguing with the math, just the idea that nothing will change to have the end result be different. Again, we have seen this before, and low and behold it didnt take 2 years or 23k crystals. But I am more than willing to come back in 2 years if it doesnt change and apologize for my suggestion.

Even if it changes, it will be a year at the absolute minimum. And that’s bare bones. More likely 15-18 months if they stick to their once a month cadence longer than 6 months. This is after a GL-like gear dump to even do the event. That’s not ok

Ok, if you say so. Then we start into the discussion of ROI of investing in making it shorter.... but that's a different thread.

What do you mean if I say so? It’s math lol. If they are doing once a month, without any changes or buying packs, it will take 2 years. IF they go for a year at that cadence then double it, it will take 18 months. If it’s twice a month initially, it’s still an entire year to 7* Executor after needing to dump tons of gear and resources to get an R8 Bobba, R8 Piett, R7 Vader, R5 Bossk, R5 TFP, R5 IG88 and R5 Dengar….7 relic toons for a 4* unlock.

That’s the bigger issue. Whether it’s 12 months or 24 to get Executor to 7*. But you know, keep focusing on the time being anywhere between 12 months and 24 months rather than the prereqs

You are stating some absolute minimums and other speculation, to that I am saying "if you say so", that is all.

It absolutely could be less than 1 year, although that seems to be a bench mark they use (as seen with the shard drop doubling).

I dont really agree or disagree with reqs on things. This is a farming and resource management game, they are all over the place, at each step of development and unlocking events/toons. This thread is about the unlocking method (which includes both), not exclusively about the reqs.

It’s not speculation actually. They’ve said that it will be a once a month event. That means that’s 10 blueprints per month. 240 needed is 24 months. That’s the absolute maximum. Even if they then changed it to twice a month starting next months, that’s 20 a month. Meaning at minimum another 12 months. So 13 month minumum. That’s not speculation. It’s fact

It is not a fact. They could increase it to 3 or some other offering. Nothing is stopping that, you just assume that. Again I'm not saying what they will do or won't do, but neither can you, you can speculate and assume, which is fine, but it's not a fact.