Forget the new TB

AdRad solo

Cant wait for them to combine all these crying threads.

Cant wait for them to combine all these crying threads.

Crying? I don't cry. In game I simply play what's fun and ignore what isn't. In the forums I write what I write to try to get CG to emphasize fun in their game development. I can't say that my opinion of what's fun is universal, but I give my version and let others give theirs.

This idea is far ahead of the player base. I didn't expect to necessarily do well in the new TB. I expected the new TB to be a motivator to acquire and gear new toons released down the road once we identify specific battles or phases that crush the current meta.

But I expected to be able to go in and look around while they crush me so that I could get ideas about what mike work and start thinking about theory crafting new squads.

Then I could use that theory crafting to allow me to prioritize which toons I wanted to gear highest and soonest.

But now that won't matter. Once I gear something to r9 to check out the battle and start theory crafting, my toons are already r9, so there's nothing left to do. And if I r9'd the wrong squad, I've cost myself hugely.

All the incentives are to sit back and wait, because even if I took squads to r9, it will be like LS GeoTB at release -- meaning the characters you need and abilities you need to actually have success don't even exist yet, so the toons you take to r9 today won't be the toons that end up conquering the new TB.

By creating over-the-top requirements, they've made certain that this TB is a wasteland of inactivity for 6-12 months.

This is why I say that the player base isn't ready for this TB and that requiring a single toon to be r9 (the leader, obviously) would be a wiser strategy that would allow people to at least participate in the gameplay.

Currently we're excluded from game play, and that's neither fun nor good for the game. Having an r9 leader but having your r5 tank get two-shot and your whole squad get demolished in wave 1 would allow the same result -- no TB points for combat mission waves -- BUT it would allow the players to actually have a glimpse at the future. With 5xr9 we don't even get to look around at the new world.

This just made the hole point of relics useless. R6+ teams x6+++ basically not rechargeable for average 95% of base. CG just sucked all the fun out of this new game mode

"Firebrigade;c-2395186" wrote:
I just want to know if you’re really going to have to r9 units just to platoon them in p5 and 6?

NOTE: Min Requirements are for Combat Missions and Operations but not Deployment

The game info now has a RelicTier definition for platoons so......

This happened with GeoTBs too….when DS and LS Geo came out we preloaded Phase 1 and 2 as an UPPER end guild……same thing will happen here.

Well, no.

The same thing didn't happen in LSTB. I was there. I remember.

We went in, we started the battles, and then we got crushed. We might not have actually gotten any TP from combat missions, but we were allowed to attempt them.

In other words, we were allowed to play the game.

This plan from CG **denies the opportunity to actually play the game**. That's the part to which I object.

To be relentlessly clear, I call attention to the fact that I have never asked for lesser difficulty. Only lesser entrance requirements. I don't want to be told I can't play. I just want to go in and get blown up on my own power. That at least allows me to get ideas, to think creatively, to make my own decisions on what toons or squads or factions need a new focus.

If I can't even have a look, then I'm letting someone else play the game and then tell me in a Youtube video what I'm supposed to gear and which abilities need zetas or omis and I'm just pushing the buttons to follow someone else's plan -- all without entering a battle.

That's not gameplay. That's bookkeeping. While I have accountants in my own family (god's mercy be upon them) MOST of us don't think bookkeeping is a grand old time.

Insane relic requirement for any toon in the leader slot is okay, I guess. Personally I think anyone should have the right to be gloriously slaughtered in unwindable combat. But still, I don't think I would object to a requirement for an r9 leader. Because then each person would only have to have a couple r9 toons to be able to attempt the battles on their guild's track. That's a huge amount of work just to get 2 of them, but it's not something that you couldn't do in 1-2 months if you're someone with no r9s and your guild leader said you'll need them because your guild is going to start attempting the new TB.

Again, I'm arguing for game play, not easy victories. Personally I'm convinced that straight r9 won't win many 4/4 battles in p1 (though I'd be happy to be wrong) because that's how it was in LSTB when it was released.

You could have straight r7s (the best toons then available) and you would still get murdered because Omicrons didn't exist, Mon Mothma + Kyle didn't exist, JMK didn't exist, and JML didn't exist.

The toons we relic today to attempt the battles aren't going to be the ones that win those battles. The toons that win vs. the new TB aren't even on CG's drawing board.

"Screerider;c-2395155" wrote:
AdRad solo

I'll be twice as good, I'm going to run a Fishman solo and a Piett solo.

One worry I have. Is that I read that recommended 20 stars on LSGTB before moving onto this thing. To me the requirements look significantly more than 20 stars.

465m guild I have one R9 and this

465m guild I have one R9 and this

I'm probably similar on mats, and likewise have only one r9. I think that's going to be fairly normal even in high end guilds.