Here’s a list of all of the characters that are missing a zeta/omega upgrade. Have they been forgotten? I know quite a few are worthless (lookin at you ugnaught) but it’d be nice if they eventually got their kits finished.

Don’t worry, they will all be needed at relics for a GL one day.

You have forgotten Cad Bane, the only bounty hunter in the game without a zeta - even though he once got a little touch-up, it was not enough. Even worse maybe because back then they removed his "Jedi hunter" lead ability. It wasn't strong, but it was meant true to lore at least.

Is anyone else surprised that this list is that short?Or that so many of those toons are still kind of useful, and at least lowB-C grade toons

"Its_not_a_moon;c-2167901" wrote:"Scuttlebutt;c-2167894" wrote:"Kyno;c-2167811" wrote:Is anyone else surprised that this list is that short?Or that so many of those toons are still kind of useful, and at least lowB-C grade toonsI’m surprised you think many of these toons are useful. Outside of pilots being useful for their ships, I’m struggling to get passed the Rebel Fighters. Remove Mon Mothma from the game, and maybe I could see chirrut and baze still being useful...maybe.No no no, Plo koon was amazing in a JKR meta, he basically gave the edge to your revan team with bonus speed and made it easier for you to win, Jawas are great for killing bugs or MM, Lando, wedge, Biggs, chirut, baze where also great until recently, wedge and Biggs where part of the danger zone squad countering traya when she was meta. Poe and resistance trooper are still great under JTR or finn, they counter high relic BH, Again all those toon can get a buff with a zeta one of these days and that would be great (maybe give us rebel pilot Luke) but the rest of them are trash basically (maybe Ayla secura can have a use every now and then) :| All of the examples you use here are toons being used in old meta teams or to counter old meta teams. I have many on this list geared from 2017 and 2018 (most are g8 or g9). Some are g12 from when Ships 2.0 was introduced, and are still in my top 80 GP. They don’t participate in GAC, in TB, or in TW. If given the option to take all of that gear back and immediately place it on other toons, I’d do it in a heartbeat for everyone but ackbar (since he has a capital ship) and plo koon (also only for his ship).

"DaarthBrewer;c-2168019" wrote:"Kyno;c-2168011" wrote:I am in the same boat with Talia, but many seem to love her and consider her key in PvE modes where NS are used.She's there for her cleanse.And her heal.

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NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
"John_Matrix1985;c-2168350" wrote:
I wonder what the best team with no zetas is

Wiggs lead lando and chaze gets my vote

I'd vote for a combination of Bounty Hunters
ex280zx
5 years ago
I'm totally ok with some characters being weak, but Mace is unacceptable. He is literally one of the most powerful Jedi in canon.
Lochaber1984
5 years ago
"Ultra;c-2168383" wrote:
"John_Matrix1985;c-2168350" wrote:
I wonder what the best team with no zetas is

Wiggs lead lando and chaze gets my vote

I'd vote for a combination of Bounty Hunters

Actually i meant characters that have no zeta abilities defined yet (as per the table)
MasterSeedy
Rising Ace
5 years ago
Talia and Bistan are solid toons.

Completely disagree.

Talia's best use is cleansing other NS, but it's very rare that you're taking any NS squad against a team that pumps out debuffs, and when you do - well, the two most debuff heavy squads are Palp (L) and DR (L), and any NS squad is going to get smoked by a Palp or DR squad with equal gear & equal zetas.

So when you need it most, would you like to have her cleanse? I guess, but her kit as a whole can't change NS from a losing squad into a winning squad against either of those leads.

Now, I've also used Talia in the NS AB vs. that nasty encounter-4 Sidious, but when you get to higher tiers, she doesn't help there either b/c she dies from the AoE. It's Daka that saves that AB, not Talia. I'd love to love Talia. I was an early adopter of NS in my guild way back when, but she's not a solid toon if she doesn't make your NS squads better, and if you could have an all r7 NS Squad of Talzin, Ventress, Daka, Spririt & Zombie, there's no one of those toons you can switch out for an r7 Talia that wouold make the squad better.

The way I look at it, she's tied for 6th best NightSister, and that's ... not solid.

As for Bistan, well, there's simply no way that Bistan is a solid toon in any sense. His ship is a solid ship, and you might gear the toon for the sake of the ship, but he's simply not a solid toon. Period.
NyKynoe
5 years ago
"MasterSeedy;c-2168571" wrote:
Talia and Bistan are solid toons.

As for Bistan, well, there's simply no way that Bistan is a solid toon in any sense. His ship is a solid ship, and you might gear the toon for the sake of the ship, but he's simply not a solid toon. Period.

Not trying to single you out, but you posted it last so I'm going to quote this statement.

I'm not sure I know what game people are playing that this is a thought process....

Gear is one of the most precious and sought after things in this game, second only to things like speed 20+ mods, and such.

For any toon to be recommended to be brought up to a high gear level at this point in the game, that is a good toon, a solid toon, a useful toon, whichever phrase you want to put on it, no matter their exact use.
Embus
5 years ago
I see a lot of Republic Jedi on there waiting on kit touch-ups.. *cough* GL Obi-Wan and Anakin are coming *cough*
marxuke123
5 years ago
Some are useless even when reliced, eg Rose :) She is only useful to get Rey, but then again, Rey has bugs. They buffed Kylo quickly, but have left Rey bugged for months.
mykdapet
New Traveler
5 years ago
"slickdealer;c-2167759" wrote:
Don’t worry, they will all be needed at relics for a GL one day.

They'll all have to be relic'd for a GL one day and not actually be used to get the GL....
templarphoenix
New Spectator
5 years ago
Having all abilities omegad/zetad doesnt mean they are useful...some still pretty weak compare to the others.
Mon mothma saved some, but she can only take 4 with her, rests are still left in the corner.
templarphoenix
New Spectator
5 years ago
"Kyno;c-2168601" wrote:
"MasterSeedy;c-2168571" wrote:
Talia and Bistan are solid toons.

As for Bistan, well, there's simply no way that Bistan is a solid toon in any sense. His ship is a solid ship, and you might gear the toon for the sake of the ship, but he's simply not a solid toon. Period.

Not trying to single you out, but you posted it last so I'm going to quote this statement.

I'm not sure I know what game people are playing that this is a thought process....

Gear is one of the most precious and sought after things in this game, second only to things like speed 20+ mods, and such.

For any toon to be recommended to be brought up to a high gear level at this point in the game, that is a good toon, a solid toon, a useful toon, whichever phrase you want to put on it, no matter their exact use.

Lv up 2 dust collectors only for a ship...alright, your choice.