"leef;578820" wrote:
"Lianara;578758" wrote:
Also, if you believe the statements encouraging to stop spending is groupthink, what would you call - 'if you're unhappy just quit', that you just posted - how are the too different?
I didnt say "if you're unhappy just quit"
i said:
Doesnt it make alot more sence to just quit the game you arent enjoying anymore than feeling oppressed by something you actually choose to be a part of ? Or do they actually like the game, but just conform to the popular consensus and start activily complaining to fit in ?
There is a big difference.
If you want to call it anything - mob mentality is probably closer - both both groups 2 and 3 are guilty of it, including you and OP.
i'm fine with calling it mob mentality. Unlike the OP I actually do want some of the changes, that the players are suggesting, to happen. However i do agree with the OP that the constant complaining has a negative effect on the forum members. First of all, I assume everyone here joined the forum because they like the game. currently complaint threads are dominant on the forum, this will influence the people's oppinions about the game and they start to copy them, creating a snowball effect. Because of this, minor inconveniences, that wouldnt have changed someones overal gaming experience by much, turn into mayor issues. This isnt helping for the betterment of the game at all, and creates a very toxic atmosphere in the process.
Do you think posts like OP's don't also contribute to toxic atmosphere? You think they're helpful to the community in some way? Should we have more posts attacking complainers?
The way you help community is address concerns (which could be both real and perceived) - i.e. when someone complains about OP Rey, droids, Dooku, etc - proper reaction is to either explain strategy for dealing with them, or just to stay out of conversation. Attacking people at that point only puts them on defensive and makes things worse - THAT is what creates a snowball effect. This situation is no different. Encouraging posts like OP will create even more division and negativity.
Concerning the snowball effect - while its a somewhat legitimate fear - there is no basis with which to believe that this has happened nor is it possible to prove. It's just as likely that every single person that posted complaining about the issues has independently arrived to the conclusion. I haven't posted anything related to the Mod fiasco because everything I would have said has already been said, so I had nothing to add. It doesn't mean that I didn't agree with many posts. Had I actually posted my thoughts how would anyone be able to tell if I independently arrived at them or was influenced by the forum?
I didnt say "if you're unhappy just quit"
i said:
Doesnt it make alot more sence to just quit the game you arent enjoying anymore than feeling oppressed by something you actually choose to be a part of ? Or do they actually like the game, but just conform to the popular consensus and start activily complaining to fit in ?
There is a big difference.
To me, the only difference is passive tone, the meaning, while less belligerent, is the same - stating that people that are unhappy should rather walk away from the situation rather then continue getting angry about it. It's not a completely wrong argument, but everyone has a different tolerance for negativity, and it's quiet possible that some, who are currently unhappy about the game, are complaining because they want it to succeed (fight or flight, I guess?)
